Lenovo quietly launched the world’s lightest laptop but it won’t sell it outside Asia

Anything to qualify that statement or just taking a shot? Who offers better value machines than Lenovo?

- I bought an ideapad pro 5i 14” a few days ago. I was delighted to see it ran Ubuntu perfectly with no driver issues.
  Ironically, the keyboard and trackpad didn’t work in windows until I installed the drivers (made for a more difficult install)
  What’s the long term usage like with Mint? Does it have decent battery life?
I had a Flex 14 which had a broken keyboard. Sent it for repairs and it came back with the same issue happening a minute after I turned it on. Had a bunch of friends who got a Lenovo gaming laptop that were offered at a deal with our school (was a Y-something I can't recall). All of them ended up with strange green bands on their screens within 2 years. The whole superfish fiasco basically cemented that they're not a company I would buy anything from ever again.
I'm currently using a Asus Zephyrus G14 and it's been practically a flawless experience.
- You have to stay with the X, T or P series to get anything with decent quality. They've sullied the ThinkPad brand greatly over the years with the cheapshit variations outside of these series.
  
  E series at the right price is alright too.
  X and T are always nicer, but more expensive.
  Really gotta stay away from IdeaPad, they're the true rubbish.
  
  Nah, there's no point in a cheap laptop unless you want to repair or replace it after the warranty expires. Too many cheap corner cuts, wears out faster.
  
  Your reply to me makes no sense?
  I condem cheap laptops yet you write as if I didn't?
- The legion series is terrible. Same for HP omen, and Dell alienware. The OEMs just cut too many corners for "gaming" stuff. I've repaired them all. Desktop and laptops, across all these brands.
  
  Aren't most "gaming" laptops quite bad whatever the brand?
  
  Don't know, I've only worked on the 3 brands I listed.
- I've had terrible experiences with all brands bar ThinkPad.
  ThinkPad specifically too, IdeaPad, and Legion are consumer garbage.
I've worked in IT for over 20 years Lenovo have never released a decent laptop in my experience and opinion.
- Thinkpad are one of the finest when it comes to 9-5 jobs
  
  I have a Thinkpad T16 Gen 1 (Price around $3000 based on its configuration, like 48 GB RAM) at work and it's a piece of shit.
  For example they fucked up their BIOS, so it sometimes needed 2 minutes to boot. Lenovo admitted they have an issue there.. after I messed with some BIOS settings I got it down to 30 seconds at least (but it's still not great). It also has heat issues and immediately clocks down the Intel 6 core CPU if you do anything demanding (like compiling). And it has a weird tick with the fans, where it sometimes out of nowhere spins the fans up from 0 to 100 for just a second or so. Haven't been able to fix that one yet.
  Overall it's an okay laptop, but for the price it sucks. The whole company now thinks about switching away from Lenovo after we had other troubles (like the charging port not working for a colleague).
  
  Wow! Never heard of such issues. I had a t14, great laptop for the time I spend at that company. Now I am at new place doing 9-5 and they gave me Microsoft surface laptop. Its even worst than lenovo. Overall I hate 9-5 and my life now.
  
  Yeah, Surface isn't really a work laptop. My company is starting to think of switching to Dell (probably won't be great either).
  Overall pretty much all laptops are overpriced pieces of shit. The only good thing is the mobility, but if I actually want performance and a quiet machine, please just give me a desktop. If I needed my computer in a meeting room at the last company I just grabbed the meeting laptop and went remote to my desktop.
  
  Framework looks promising. I know a guy who started a company and has 3 employees. He got all of them framework laptops. He mentioned so far no one has complained. I am thinking to work for him instead of some shitty mega corp.
- So who released a decent laptop in your opinion?
  
  So who released a decent laptop in your opinion?
  Considering they led with "Lenovo hasn't released a decent laptop in 20 years", I'm guessing they'll go with HP.

I used thinkpad for years. They are great machines, very reliable.

Thinkpads always seem to have garbage screens. It felt like they maxed out at 1340x768 res for a long time and even when I last looked a year or two ago, 1080p seemed like the best you can get in most cases.
- Every thinkpad released in the last 5 years has had screens with 100% adobe rgb color accuracy. They're almost all at least brighter than 300 nits. Some brighter than 400. They're objectively incredible screens. 1366x768 hasn't been the standard in a long time. 1440p has been an option for a long time too. As far back as the t460 or the first gen x1 carbon like 10 years ago. The last ThinkPad I can see where 1366x768 was even an option was the t490 in 2017. After that they moved onto 16:10 screens and made 1920x1200 the minimum. Hell even 1800p OLED screens have been available in some models for 7 years. The t570 and p50 both have 4k screens and they've been available for about 7 years as well.

As you're earning downvotes, let me throw in a +1 here (I also thought Thinkpads are the goat, till I got one):

I have a Thinkpad T16 Gen 1 (Price around $3000 based on its configuration, like 48 GB RAM) at work and it’s a piece of shit.

For example they fucked up their BIOS, so it sometimes needed 2 minutes to boot. Lenovo admitted they have an issue there… after I messed with some BIOS settings I got it down to 30 seconds at least (but it’s still not great). It also has heat issues and immediately clocks down the Intel 6 core CPU if you do anything demanding (like compiling). And it has a weird tick with the fans, where it sometimes out of nowhere spins the fans up from 0 to 100 for just a second or so. Haven’t been able to fix that one yet.

Overall it’s an okay laptop, but for the price it sucks. The whole company now thinks about switching away from Lenovo after we had other troubles (like the charging port not working for a colleague).

I have a yoga slim pro something or other (amd) that's been running fine for a bit over a year. It runs Linux, but it's probably ok under windows as well.

Are you Murican?

Oh god oh fuck you'll summon the TwinkPad users…