We all deserve better than this
Idiotic tariffs, indifferent retailers, depraved flippers and AI mania are making the simple act of buying a graphics card the defining misery of PC gaming in 2025.
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Yep, this basically sums up my experiences a couple months ago. I've been telling myself since about 2016 that I would save up to go all in and build a solid gaming desktop.
But then there were floods in southeast Asia hindering supplies where I lived. No biggie, they'd recover quick.
Then crypto took off and GPUs and some other hardware tripled or quadrupled in price. No biggie, it's a fad that will go away quick.
Then COVID destroyed production and distribution of computer hardware. No biggie, gives me time to save up more to afford these new crazy prices.
Then everyone needs GPUs for the AI craze, and prices went up even more. No biggie, I'll just...cope?
Finally, I was at the point of "Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting. I'm buying a 5080, even if it costs as much as 2 PS5s."
So I planned it out, made sure I had everything lined up to immediately snag one once they were available. And then day of:
So then I thought, forget Nvidia. Just because their cards are dropping earlier in the year doesn't mean it's them or nothing. I'll just get an AMD card if Nvidia doesn't have stock by then.
And, well...here we are in this article.
PC gaming is the best deal, eh?
There was a window where the AMD 6000 series were cheap and readily available, which was probably your best bet. Now we have to wait the AI bubble to burst. Hopefully.
I was in the same boat. Then I decided that the 50x0 was a paper launch and the leaks told me that the 9070XT would lower or have the same performance as the 7900xtx.
Then the 7900xtx dropped in price, clearing the channel for the new gen.
Then I bought that.
Ever since I've been wondering... Why didn't I buy this thing earlier?
It's more then fast enough. The RT performance is above the 3080.
Every 9070XT I can buy now is almost 200 euro more then what i payed for the 7900xtx.
What I learned? Buy previous gen in it's "dying" weeks.
Same strategy here. I’m in the U.S. and tariffs were my big concern. In December, I waited for the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX to go on sale and I paid less than MSRP for it brand new. Having experienced both the disasters of the previous two GPU gens, I had the foresight that the launch of the next gen cards would also be a disaster, and here we are.
PC Gaming has become a rich person’s hobby.
Buy current gen right before the next gen launches, and you’ll be set. I expect to get 10 years out of my card, with the incredible performance, build quality, and 24 GB VRAM.
if you have been waiting since 2016, why do you want an 5080, though? 2-3 gens earlier will be a large improvement too, with half or even lower a price.
I did the same, but with AMD. I'm going Linux, and everything is good except nvidia's utterly broken drivers. I mean, they always improve, today it's usable if you don't want to sleep/hibernate your PC, if you are sure you won't run out of video memory (nvidia drivers are the only one in linux that can't transfer some memory to system ram when it's really needed), if you don't need gamescope, and so on...
I expanded elsewhere in this post, but basically it's a combination of:
Aren't you letting perfect be the enemy of good here? You are looking for a unicorn and likely will never find it.
I mean, I already have good. I just don't need to waste money on something I don't need if it's not worth it.
get an used one, why make it hard. nobody needs the latest and greatest at launch and they clearly cant/dont want to keep up.
i play me bideogames and be happy that it works well until it doesnt.
Previous gen is going for 1.5-2x as much as current gen due to shortages, even for used cards. They are at least available if someone has a dire need for a replacement GPU, but I am patient, not willing to pay current gen prices for older hardware, and not willing to pay more than MSRP at that.
holy shit the situation is dire, i just looked at the price of my card and it costs just as much as it did a few years ago when i bought it used. i guess GPUs are not for us anymore, its for AI slop and surveillance now.
Consider buying a previous generation card. You can sometimes find good deals on used ones.
For years now the prices on this year’s latest cards are so high that I don’t know who buys them. I can afford to spend $1000 but I never would when I can probably get 85% of the performance for $250.
Out of curiosity, what GPU is getting 85% of a 5080's performance at $250? Genuine question.
That was genuinely pulled out of my ass. Not a benchmark comparison. It's just my perception that cards only get incrementally better each year, but "this year's card" is always proportionally much more expensive for what you get. Few games actually demand the very latest and greatest, so I don't know why people would ever pay the premium for the latest and greatest.
Ah, gotcha. I haven't been looking for GPUs for a few years now, so I was low-key excited that there was actually a deal that good.
But yeah, I agree that the last couple gens of flagship GPUs are vastly overkill for 95% of games.
What games are the 5% that need a 5090 to enjoy? I can run any game on the market right now at a minimum 1080p 60fps on my 3060.
I didn't say you "need a 5090 enjoy the other 5% of games," the implication is performance. And no, I highly doubt your 3060 is not doing that. With lowered settings and no ray tracing on some games, sure. When we're talking about flagship GPUs, the idea is that people buy them to be able to run at 1440p/4k, higher graphics settings, and maintain at least stable 60+fps.
There's games right now that even a 4090 struggles to run on maxed settings at 4k and stay above 60fps at all times. However, DLSS 3+ and similar tech saves the day with frame gen and upscaling. Developers just need to optimize their shit.
And if you don't care about graphics at all, then of course this is all irrelevant and participating in this discussion is completely pointless.
If somebody doesn't need to play at 4k 60fps doesn't mean they don't care about graphics at all.
There are graphics settings in between maxed out and bare minimum for a reason. I guess whatever floats your boat. I couldn't justify spending 2000 on GPU plus another 1000 on a CPU + monitor just so I can go from 1080p to 4k. Does that mean I don't care about graphics? No, it just means I don't value 4k over 1080p at a $3000 price tag. I'm "fortunate" (if that's what you call wage labor) enough that I could afford it, but it's just not a priority for me.
And the same applies to smartphones since a while ago.
Yeah. I bought a 3060 on eBay for $240 a few weeks ago. Works great.
Brand new Intel ARC B580 puts up numbers in the 4060 range and only costs around $250
I usually buy AMD for their open-source support. I wanted nvidia this time around to fiddle with AI stuff, which is better-supported on nvidia right now.
fiddle with AI stuff
I.e. one of the same things that causing gouging on GPUs and the market to be pushed out of gamers hands.
This person is a consumer, just like you. Your gaming is no more important than their fiddling. Your angst is pointed in the wrong direction.
People at home using their gpus for a mix of gaming and local ai are not really the source of that issue
I was upgrading anyway. My RX 580 wasn't cutting it for games any more.
This is what I got from the article as well. Jesus, buy a previous gen GPU and fiddle a bit with your graphic settings, it’s just games, not life or death.
I actually had thought of that too, but see my reply to someone else further below:
Good luck finding a used one that isn't barely on its last legs from being poorly OC'd/cooled, or is just an outright brick that burned out in a crypto mining farm and is now being resold by a shell entity of a shell entity of a shell entity on Amazon or Ebay.
I’ve been telling myself since about 2016 that I would save up to go all in and build a solid gaming desktop.
Finally, I was at the point of “Fuck it, I’m tired of waiting. I’m buying a 5080, even if it costs as much as 2 PS5s.”
I assume that whatever you're running right now isn't terribly new if you've been thinking about upgrading for nine years.
The 5080 is a 16GB card. A quick skim on Amazon suggests that 16GB Nvidia cards are in short supply, but that you can get a 16GB AMD GPU without problems.
They aren't quite as fast on the Passmark benchmark as the 5080, but they also cost a lot less (even if the 5080 were available), and I assume that they'd be a lot faster than whatever you're running now.
Could go with that (or something less-fancy) and then if you felt that you wanted to spend more for more performance, do so when GPUs become available.
To add a bit to the story, I did spring for a gaming laptop in 2021 because my 2013 MacBook was starting to show its age, and the model I bought came with a 2070 mobile GPU which has been fine playing newer games at modest settings at 1080p.
Laptops and prebuilts were basically the only affordable option in the pandemic, and I had a laptop need at the time. But for a while now it has still been a goal of mine to put together a good desktop. The last desktop I built was in 2010 (I snagged a GTX 580 GPU and felt like such hot shit then).
I’m so glad I built a high end computer last fall because I was lucky to afford it. Now my 4080 S used is now worth 600 dollars more than what I paid for it at MSRP.
