If BOTH stop fighting and let people negotiate peace, there will be a Ukraine AND no war.
What a fucking concept. Remember, Ukraine was the one that started the actual war, Russia just wanted to occupy Ukraine which would not have led to massive death and destruction. I am not for Russia here, because Russia shouldn't have did that shit, but for fuck's sake, don't pretend like Ukraine is completely blameless for THE DEATH OF TONS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING CHILDREN.
Wars aren't a game. There are no real winners, only death and destruction and sadness and years and years of lasting effects. This is 2023. Grow the fuck up and resolve your differences like adults, not a bunch of children slapping at each other crying for mommy.
The rapist shouldn't rape the woman, but for fucks sakes don't pretend the woman is completely blameless for it. The rapist just wanted sex and if she hadn't fought against it, it wouldn't be rape
So you think if one country wants to occupy another country, they should be allowed to without any resistance? How does that make any sense.. would you be okay with some foreign country invading and occupying your homeland?
When one side doesn't really want to negotiate (hint: it's Russia), you have no choice.
Attack a sovereign country under the guise of denazification (with no proof), then demand they give up several thousand square kilometers of land?
If you don't see the flaw in that logic, lemme make it easier for you: If I was your neighbor, and started digging in your garden looking for treasures, and you wouldn't like it, and I demanded to either keep looking for it or that you give up a meter of your garden, you'd keep fighting aswell.
I am not for Russia Germany here, because Russia Germany shouldn’t have did that shit, but for fuck’s sake, don’t pretend like Ukraine Poland is completely blameless for THE DEATH OF TONS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING CHILDREN.
This feels familiar, somehow.
Anyway, so let's say Ukraine folds to Russian territorial demands; what happens next? What will stop Russia from repeating the process in the future? Appeasement doesn't work. France and the UK demonstrated this in 1938 and it how made the Reich stronger and set the stage for the USSR to dominate eastern Europe.