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Treat people like animals for decades, it's no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.
No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. Israel should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.
"It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time."
We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn't work like that.
God especially on the internet, can't have any nuance about "well you're right, but that doesn't mean personal responsibility just ceases to exist" it's just "You're as extreme as me or you're on the other side"
Palestine isn't Hamas. Hamas doesn't represent all of Palestine
It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.
Palestine in general being a victim doesn't automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.
That doesn't mean you get to glass Palestine. If people really cared about dead babies and a death toll then they would be against Israel doing this.
I didn't say it did, though I suppose that goes for what I said as well.
Right, but more than one thing can be true at once.
Get yourself a lesson in History and don't just repeat the old antisemitic bullshit story.
The human cost of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (deaths/injuries) documented by the UN:
2008:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,202
Israel 🇮🇱 : 8532009:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 7,460
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1232010:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 1,659
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1852011:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,260
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1362012:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,936
Israel 🇮🇱 : 5782013:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 4,031
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1572014 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 19,860
Israel 🇮🇱 : 2,7962015 :
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 14,813
Israel 🇮🇱 : 3392016:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 3,572
Israel 🇮🇱 : 2222017:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 8,526
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1742018:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 31,558
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1302019:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 15,628
Israel 🇮🇱 : 1332020:
Palestine 🇵🇸 : 2,781
Israel 🇮🇱 : 61Source: Géopolia
Seems like a fair and balanced fight
Are these numbers civilian or combatant's deaths/injuries? What was the background? Who attacked, who defended itself?
You know, numbers without context are nothing more than numbers.
As I said already, get some lessons in History.
KTHXBYE
Can you provide any sources to assist in this history lesson you want people to have?
Jfc the irony in your comment
Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitism. I missed the part in the Torah that says "start an apartheid ethnostate and brutalize your neighbors".