1y ago

They would be too distracted by everything

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A few of our founding fathers were based and are remembered for their true merits as people.
And the rest were just the most rich and powerful people around at the time. They had to start a war and a new country in order to get away with defrauding England when they joined in on this settler colonial project. They stopped slavery from ending. They chased wealth and valor, and designed the country for their ends.
WE deserve a new constitution like every other modern country.
- Their project was in part to legitimize the transfer of power from the nobility to the elite merchant and "gentleman" farmer class. They were very much a product of their time, just like you and I are today.
  
  I'd say they are more products of their class privilege than their time. If some people at the time were outlawing slavery, and someone else stops them... Who is the product of the time? Well, the conservative, of course. Because progressivism is just a bonus added on, its better than we expect of anyone in the past, and history itself.
- Then get enough of the population to agree with you to convene a constitutional Congress and pass that new constitution. It shouldn't be hard if at least 75% of the US aligns with you. If you don't have that much of the population in agreement, then you aren't communicating your desired constitution well or the current one works well enough for enough of the country.
  Otherwise you are either implying that we need war to crush the pillars of our society, necessitating the rebuilding of our institutions like what happened with WWI and WWII for the other "modern" countries I presume you are wanting to emulate, or you want to disenfranchise at least 30% of the population because WE is not everyone and YOU "deserve" a new constitution and fuck the "other side".
  
  You what now?
  
  We both know a lot of our representatives would never convene a constitutional congress because they're so greedy for power they want to draw back democracy. And our representatives dont really represent what any American wants.
  I wouldn't imply revolution. I'm advocating a reformist position, where we reform the current government, under the reform rules spelled out in our current constitution. I like a lot of what our constitution says, genuinely.
  Yeah I do largely want to emulate social democracies in europe whose constitutions have been updated about once per decade, some starting in WWI/WWII and some even earlier than that. They either have much more representation than us or even have direct democracy. Thats awesome.
  Dont misunderstand me, I dont want to leave out conservatives. I want a better constitution. Better representation. Its such a dream though, or representatives will just slip in more spying or police state crap in there.

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