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In Castle Rock v. Gonzales, police didn't enforce a restraining order against an ex-husband who kidnapped and murdered 3 kids. The Supreme Court ruled police had no obligation to enforce the order.

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On the ninth episode of 5-4, Peter (@The_Law_Boy), Rhiannon (@AywaRhiannon), and Michael (@_FleerUltra) talk about a domestic violence case in Colorado that led to the death of three children and a Supreme Court ruling that affirmed a broad vision of police discretion.

"This is a gruesome case, brought in 2005 by a Colorado woman named Jessica Gonzales. Gonzales had a restraining order against her ex-husband. But when he kidnapped her three children, the police ignored her requests for help. All three children were murdered. The Supreme Court ruled that the police had no obligation to enforce the restraining order."

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  • What the fuck even is a restraining order unless it's enforced by the police?

    • In the words of the pod, the majority opinion is that "the long tradition of police doing whatever the fuck they want is so important that it outweighs the clear language and intent of a law" that was written to protect women and children from domestic abusers.

      • I'm so tired of this shit.

        There's genuinely no problems in the world we wouldn't have the knowledge, resources and time to fix, if we didn't have to deal with these assholes protecting the corrupt rich.

        I'm just defeated and depressed that I've stopped fighting the windmills. Can hardly get up. Everywhere you look some reminded of some leadership of a nation or an institution or another is doing something clearly and utterly corrupt that is putting the actual existence of humanity at risk in the long term and definitely risking fascism in the short term.

        I'm just so fucking annoyed I don't know what to do

        • If you can, get offline for a bit. You can't spend every minute of every day fighting. Fighters need leave from the front.

          I personally found joining a local tree planting group, my union's events and a disaster relief aid group really energise me.

          • I try to, but I have other problems affecting my sleep and digestion.

            I would love to do something, but I've been waiting for bureaucracy and doctor's for years now.

            Genuinely the first time I complained one of the problems I have now was over 25 years ago. Incompetent public healthcare ffs.

            I'd love to have hobbies, but they cost money.

            I genuinely just wait every day pretty much. Overworked myself to half death, got seizures and shit. Now I've been just pretty much laying around for a few years because having mentioned cannabis to the doctors they started treating me like junkie scum. No joke. The attitudes here in the Nordics towards weed are ridiculous.

            I've been to political groups, I've tried non-political friend groups with activities, everything. I know it's the depression speaking but can't get inspired for anything and don't even want to browse the internet for all the shit I want to protest so loudly, but which if I bring up to my family / friend (singular) just gets empty looks, pretty much.

            Finns are so apathetic towards any problems. "Well just look at how well you have it"

            If everyone used that logic then our standard would be whoever happens to have it the worst. Not a good feedback loop.

            Thanks for the tips though. Planting trees sounds nice. I've got no car. Shittiest neighbourhood.

            Just literally out of fucks to give.

            • Sounds tough, and very relatable. I hope you find some solidarity.

              • Thank you, genuinely.

                I've a good therapist, and one of my brothers is semi-decent.

                And I live in a welfare country and grow a room full of weed. So I don't have to fear being homeless and I just medicate the anger out.

                So I manage. It's like a slow decline. Feels like there's a fuse burning and I'm just trying to dampen it to make it burn slower.

                I've been thinking I probably need to start just posting videos or something. There are definitely more crazy people doing crazier videos, so I shouldn't mind if some people disagree, no matter how vehemently.

                It'd just be so much easier if there was a group to fall back on.

                My bitch of a mother made me move schools three times because at first they're divorced with my dad and then from the next town we had to move because she found a new man and just had to move in with him instantly to another part of the country.

                I was literally in the middle-school/high-school of the country, with a 9.3/10 gpa, and no. I get triggered anytime some shows bring up the meme of parents wanting their kids to go to good schools, because my mom took me from them.

                Fkity fk fk.

                Sorry for the venting.

                My point being I think there's only making social media shit left for me to find solidarity. If my opinions are niche, then internet is the place. I just don't like the idea of being "an influencer" even if I did succeed.

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