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Ah ok fair enough. I'd still say "support" is a strong word. Democrats want the genocide to end, but aren't willing to directly oppose Israel. Republicans, by contrast, want even more genocide.
Democrats want the genocide to end, but aren't willing to directly oppose Israel.
Sure, that's why they gave Netanyahu multiple standing ovations.
That line brought him huge applause, though the standing ovations Mr. Netanyahu received were mostly partisan, as Republicans clapped loudly and Democrats hung back, some sitting silently and stone-faced.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/us/politics/netanyahu-congress.html
You can watch it happen, the Democrats largely supported him with thunderous applause. Some dems did express minor resistance, but even Kamala stood up and condemned the protestors outside as "anti-semetic."
“I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews,” Harris said in a statement, her first on antisemitism since she launched her bid for the presidency this week.
“Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation,” she said. “I support the right to peacefully protest, but let’s be clear: Antisemitism, hate and violence of any kind have no place in our nation.”
Fuck Israel, but let's not forget, fuck Hamas too. Wanting the genocide to end does not mean you have to support the OTHER group of genocidal fucks. They both fucking suck. We just want the slaughter of innocent civilians to stop.
Hamas and their violent rhetoric is a product of the Material Conditions imposed on Palestinians by fascist Zionists. Condemning the bully and the bullied that lashes out in equal measure is "both-sides" nonsense.
The fact of the matter is that the ongoing conflict can only be resolved with a One Secular State solution, dissolving the settler colonial regime and giving former Israelis and Palestinians equal democratic say with minority protections.
The fact of the matter is that the ongoing conflict can only be resolved with a One Secular State solution, dissolving the settler colonial regime and giving former Israelis and Palestinians equal democratic say with minority protections.
First of all, I totally agree.
Condemning the bully and the bullied that lashes out in equal measure is “both-sides” nonsense.
No. Fuck that. Hamas didn't just "lash out" like a fucking kid on a playground, they murdered innocent civilians. That is crossing a line. Fuck Hamas and anyone who supports them, they would do the same as Israel if not worse, given the chance.
Hamas and Israel both want to do a genocide. Only Israel has the capability. Hamas are the same ignorant savages as the IDF at heart.
No. Fuck that. Hamas didn't just "lash out" like a fucking kid on a playground, they murdered innocent civilians. That is crossing a line. Fuck Hamas and anyone who supports them, they would do the same as Israel if not worse, given the chance.
Why does Hamas exist?
Hamas and Israel both want to do a genocide. Only Israel has the capability. Hamas are the same ignorant savages as the IDF at heart.
What are the reasons driving Hamas vs Israel?
Don't care.
Do. Not. Murder. Civilians. It's a very simple rule.
Gotcha, so because Israel has murdered far more civilians both in total and as a ratio of the total killed by each side, Israel is the greater of two evils, and the direct creator of the other evil.
I mean sure, in a "killed more people" way. Both are unacceptable though.
It's why the great majority of the conversation is about stopping Israel. It's about harm reduction, and Israel is doing the most harm by far. They need to be stopped. Stopping Hamas takes a back seat to that, practically speaking.
But do not make the mistake of thinking Hamas is the good guy just because they oppose Israel. They're terrible too. Sure, they're a monster that Israel created, but they're still a monster.