Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party
Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party
With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.
“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”
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They do more then what Trump does. Regardless by letting Tump win you are saying you are okay with the genocides going on in Ukraine. At least more might survive under Harris. Under Trump they will die too. And you will be every bit as guilty as anyone who voted for trump because you could not get over your ego and do the littlest fucking thing for your beliefs.
Does anyone in the green party even have experience on the federal level?
Again, not understanding where the anger is coming from. I'm not even supporting a specific candidate. I'm pointing out that 3d parties that take a stand against US imperialism will always have support, because neither major party can be trusted in this regard. And again, for some people, this is a line they won't cross. I'll stop now because clearly this is unproductive.
Amen, brother! I'm socialist and voting third party, and Lemmy practically hates me and insults me every day.
Good so see someone else who is questioning the Duopoly. Stay strong, brother!
You're actively getting in the way of stopping a genocide. Of course people are angry at you.
Lol yeah Russian puppetry sure is anti genocide
Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
How does voting for the Democratic candidate helping Trump win? That makes no sense.
Because that's how election math works; a vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third-party candidate and is giving it to Trump. So people who vote for Harris are really trying to help Trump win.
That's the Lemmy logic that gets thrown at me all day every day, so I'm a believer now. You did it Lemmy!
That math would only work if Harris was lower in the polls. If she had less of a chance to win.
She is tied for first place. So your math is backwards. A vote for a third party is taking votes from Harris.
I stand by what I said.
You are going for a degree in education, and you can’t understand how if Harris is higher in the polls, that a vote for somebody else is taking a vote away from her? You plan to teach individuals but can’t understand how if person is higher in the polls that if you vote for somebody who is lower in the polls, you’re taking votes from the person higher in the polls?
I mean technically a vote for anybody else is taking a vote away from somebody else, But I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of people would not see it your way.
You seem to be implying some light mockery of my degree, yet it seems you missed the nuance of my comment, which was actually turning the same logic people use against third-party voters back on them.
The point is to show how absurd it sounds when you reverse the argument. You say voting for anyone else is taking votes from Harris, but by that logic, wouldn’t voting for Harris be stealing votes from candidates who represent real change?
I understand how polls work, but I also understand that we’re allowed to vote based on who we actually believe in, not just who’s leading in the polls. It’s the classic "vote for the lesser of two evils" mentality, and I’m challenging that by showing how it leads to more of the same.
Better?
I ran an experiment: I only posted the facts without the reasoning. They're not stupid. They reasoned it out quickly. But, the conclusions disturbed their comfort. It's comfort they value most. Truth and justice be damned.
If you find one engaging IRL then investment there is a much, much better ROI for our future. All we can do here, in this format, is sow the seeds of doubt.
Oh, I thought you were debating in good faith. My bad.
Yeah, they've never done anything in good faith. They're allergic to it. Their main goal in life is to be an infuriating contrarian that everyone despises.
That does seem to be the case. Nobody can be that stupid. Just a troll doing troll stuff.
Yep. A shitbird through and through.
But I do believe that. And I am voting third party. So it is in good faith.
Awfully funny for you to be almost ten comments deep in a thread on a post from someone you blocked and that was posted days ago. You following me around with one of your alts just to post your new spam about Dems stealing votes from Stein?
Damn, that’s just pathetic.
Yeah they did this to me too. Unblocked me and annoyed me a bit then re blocked me
I don't have any alts. Thanks!
So 1) that doesn’t explain why you are spamming your sad little copypasta so deep in a thread you weren’t in; and 2) how you ended up on discussion of a three day old post of someone you blocked. Having to meet quotas must be hard, but I’m sure copying and pasting the exact same comment across multiple threads must really help with that. Hmm, or are you just keyword searching and posting your nonsense replies to random comments with a total lack of interest in good faith discussions?
And did you unblock me because you needed the attention? Wow, it just keeps getting worse.
Thanks!
I don't have to explain anything to you. Thank you!
So you can just stop there then.
Ok, thanks! Oh wait, other people haven't stopped yet, so I guess I can't either.
No, that’s true, you don’t. But it’s such odd behavior, don’t you think? I know you just started using Lemmy a bit more than a month ago, but your posting patterns and volume are unique. One might even say unprecedented - for someone behaving normally. Naturally it then occurs to other people to ask about the unnatural behavior and what motivates it.
Care to provide any clarity? Let’s just focus on why you’re copy/pasting spam responses deep in threads you haven’t participated in. You’re either obsessively reading thousands of threads you have no direct involvement in looking for opportunities for your sad copypasta or you’re using the search feature to accomplish those same things.
Surely you have reasons for such aberrant praxis?
One might even say unprecedented
Dude! Yes! I'm unprecedented! That's awesome! I like that, friend.
You're responding to plenty my posts, so aren't you doing the same "unprecedented" thing? Feel free to take a break from Lemmy if you feel you are on too much.
Look, I can post as much as I want whenever I want. I’m semi-retired, have a pension, and plenty of free time, so I’ll spend it however I choose. My life is awesome and I'm having an amazing time so far. I don’t owe you or anyone an explanation.
If you don’t like my posts, just block me, but I’m not stopping from sharing what I find interesting. I don't care if you think it's odd, or wrong, or whatever. Free country, friend.
Bravo for the almost totally normal response! Lots of work to do, but maybe with more practice you can start sounding like something other than a weirdo. And only part of it seemed copied and pasted!
And only responded to this one because it was on a post I made. Strange that you still haven’t described how you got here. Was it the obsessive/compulsive thing or the using search to insert yourself in conversations that didn’t involve you?
So damn weird