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  • It's pretty racist to judge people by their names. He's Turkish-American from an academic family, so make of that what you will. Whether or not Turkey is a Western nation is a long debate and I absolutely welcome your take on it.

    • Excuse me?

      How am I judging him?

      And do tell me what person of any real importance considers Turkey to be a Western country.

      • You're the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name.

        And again, you tell me whether or not Turkey's a Western nation. That debate's been around since before Turkey was Turkey--remember when the Ottoman Empire was the "Sick Man of Europe"?--and will probably go one for a lot longer.

        • You’re the one telling me all about who he is and his background based on his name.

          That is not an explanation of how I am judging him or how I am a racist.

          And I did tell you that Turkey is not a Western country by asking you to tell me what person of any person of any real importance considers it so. Because it isn't a Western country and no person of any real importance considers it so.

          You have already violated our civility rule by calling me a racist. I'm beginning to think you're just a troll... unless, of course, you explain how I was racist and judging him.

          • Maybe you didn't mean it this way but asking if a US citizen's name "sounds Western" is a charged thing to do in the current political climate.

            • "Maybe you didn't mean it this way" is neither an explanation for how I judged him nor how I am a racist.

              You have one more chance before you take a break for trolling a moderator. I was willing to overlook you calling me a racist at first, but you've decided to keep doubling down.

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