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[Message from blahaj.zone] Neopronouns are not trolling

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20091173

I've been waiting until after Christmas day to make this post, but some of our communities recently have had a lot of noise and upset over someone that uses neopronouns that most people are unfamiliar with.

So I want to make this clear. A persons pronouns are to be respected. This is true when the user is using neopronouns that you're unfamiliar with. It's true even if you think someone is trolling. Pronouns are not rewards for good behaviour. They aren't only to be respected when you like the person you're interacting with, or if their pronouns "make sense" to you. Trolls, spammers, twitter users, it doesn't matter who they are, your options are to respect their pronouns, or to not engage with them.

I really want to re-iterate the importance of this. Gender diverse folk are undermined, invalidated and questioned at every step of our lives. As a community, we need to be working to undo that, not creating more of it, and that means there is no space for treating pronouns (including neopronouns) as a reward for good behaviour.

This isn't a free reign for trolls and spammers. The rules still apply. Trolling, spamming, etc will continue to be dealt with, but it's not an excuse to act as if respecting someones pronouns is optional.

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  • Neopronouns are fine, but not all neopronouns are part of gender identity. Not all identity expressions are gender related.

    The entire spectrum of gender has a biological basis, and anything which doesn’t have a biological basis is an expression of identity, which is also valid, but not always related to gender. Like, no one can get a medical cocktail to transform into a dragon or cat. Please don’t confuse gender identity with other types of identity expressions.

    • well see i belive in my brain (biological) that im kitty so therefore im still valid in ur terms :3

      (also gender can be independant from anything biological meows)

      • I think the binary form of gender is a social construct, but the entire spectrum of gender identity has a biological basis because you can change aspects of people’s gender by affecting them on a physiological basis, like with hormones etc. Identity expression isn’t always related to gender or biology, I think, and it doesn’t have to be.

        Oh, to be clear, just because you believe in something doesn’t mean it has the same biological implications as gender identity. I hope I am not being rude or anything :3

        And yes, you’re a good kitty, Max head pat.

        • I'll accept the headpat, even tho it was directed at another user. Commie headpats, for the collective! :3

          Also, your first comment on this post was skepticism of the use of neopronouns, not anything negating the validity of them to the those that use them, or hateful at all. I guess that's why a mod decided to remove it. Mentioning that the gender spectrum has been constructed in relation to the existence of biological traits is meow against the rules, I guess.

          They seem to enjoy defending the indefensable, and removing any dissent to their narrative. Not to speculate, but a personal connection, or other equally stong bias in favor of the blatant troll, might be the issue.

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