The Democratic Opposition Should Look More Like Rep. Al Green
In interrupting Donald Trump’s speech to Congress, Rep. Al Green showed more vigor in opposing the president’s undemocratic, anti-worker agenda than any other act since Inauguration Day. Democrats should emulate Green, not censure him.
Policy support is irrelevant. Voters have no clue what policies or proposals are out there. Most Republican voters support liberal policies when the policy is presented to them without a politician or political party attached to it. Doesn't matter.
Policy support is irrelevant
It's obvious not irrelevant, as the first three links show. Policy matters significantly. You saying policy "doesn't matter" does not make it true. Policy affects people's material conditions in tangible ways, and with fascist policies it affects them in violent ways.
It's irrelevant in terms of whether it gains or loses you supporters, which is the context of the discussion we were having.
Again, not true. I've already provided sources that show exactly how policy can gain or lose voters.
Those are opinion pieces and they're wrong. The difference in support of the ACA vs Obamacare should be all the info you need.
No, they aren't "opinion pieces" just because you don't agree with them; they are all backed by a significant amount of data.
The difference in support between the ACA and Obamacare is the difference rhetoric and messaging can make. And even then it still remains popular because of how the policy positivity benefits people's material conditions.
The conversation that envelops the ACA has moved out of Washington and into the public domain. Opponents of the ACA, who call it “Obamacare,” regularly only emphasize what they perceive as negative aspects of the bill: that doctors will become overwhelmed by an influx of patients, that people will lose control over who their health care providers are and health insurance carrier is. The ACA’s supporters, who remember to call it the Affordable Care Act, tout what they see as highlights: that people will no longer be denied coverage based on preexisting conditions and that children can remain on their parents health insurance until age 26.
https://harvardpolitics.com/aca-vs-obamacare-american-people/
Messaging matters. Policy matters.
https://blueprint2024.com/polling/harris-poll-positive-message-8-8/
https://blueprint-research.com/polling/distance-biden-ads-message-test-10-15/
All you've done is shown that messaging matters.
Wow, great analysis. Dispute the substance of the sources or quit trolling.
What's trolling is throwing up random links and claiming they support your argument when they actually do the opposite. Did you even read that Harvard article? Its entire conclusion is that messaging and messaging ALONE is what matters with the ACA.
You are posting links that support what I'm saying, and claiming they say the opposite.
That part you quoted isn't even fucking RELEVANT to the conversation. It's just expository.
Dude you’re fighting an uphill battle in this echo chamber. These guys simply don’t live in reality.
I know. But it's a nice break coming from reddit bashing bigots and fascists, now I can come here and bash tankies and edgelords until I get sick of it again.
I got perma banned from Reddit, now I’m here. Somehow, this place is even more tankie than that place. It seems like any forum is either Marxist Bernie Bro Echo Chamber or a Racist MAGAT one.
I’m solidly on the left as a liberal, but it seems like neither side knows how civics or federal politics works.
Unironically, these guys are more performative than the Dems they bash 😂
Did they recently permaban you too with no explanation? I suspect it's the new upvote monitoring system deciding I liked Luigi a little too much. Figured I'd show up here for a bit and jeer at the tankies until I got bored and made a new reddit account.
I tried to do ban evasion. They most likely have my internet footprint. So wack.
VPN baby
