Who needs cops anyway?
Who needs cops anyway?
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Don't take what i say in the wrong way but what is listed does not really work any better than police. And before i go further, I also live in a place where police is lazy corrupt and racist to some extent, but first 2 are also a result of the fact they are not paid well.
- Teach everyone self defence - that is good in principle, but it is double edged sword - you are also possible training a future criminal, and it would most likely still be a net benefit
- organise your local communities and do community patrols (I don't remember much about how it is done in wakanda, only saw the first movie and also a long time ago) - there are 2 possible ways - either we cycle through the population - then the quality of patrol would "vary" to put it gently, if we make a small subset of people who are nominated for the job - then you have made police again - they can still get corrupt
- Handle conflict mediation without a racist incarceration system that doesn't work? - it is spoken in a self fulfulling prophecy way - it assumes (1) conflict mediation is always possible and (2) and you do not want a system which is racist. (2) is fine, but (1) is not easy. We do not a systematic framework (constitution) and people who understand it well. Not everyone can be put in burden of understanding the law (everyone should have basic understanding, but most people already do, but most real world crime is not that easy)
What is written, mostly works for a small community (of the size of a village (< 1000)). This may also justify living in smaller self sufficient communities, but this is not efficient (in sense of resource usage) - too many people would be constantly reinventing wheels. Also, the "quality" (read threat level) of criminal would vary from village to village, and if a criminal goes on village hopping rampage, these disconencted villages would be at a disdvantage, they can act like fediverse network - share the "post" with federating "communities" but if they are not federating with a community (either intentionally, or they have never come across yet) then the "post" would go unnoticed.
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holy shit my dude black panther style means irl black panthers from actual history not marvel movies ffs
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then i know even less, what and how do they do?
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They were a group of black people who went around and did stuff for their local black communities. Specifically in this case, we're referring to how they would ride around and watch cops so that they wouldn't brutalize black community members. They also did food for kids and stuff like that. They got shut down by the FBI because they were feeding too many people (quite literally, the FBI admitted to it, look it up).
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the behaviour definitely checks out as american. I did not know this (not an american, and do not know much of american black history). Thanks
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Most Americans also don't know about them. Its rather sad, cause as far as I understand, they were one of the most successful groups both from a communist and from an anti-racism perspective.
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it assumes (1) conflict mediation is always possible and (2) and you do not want a system which is racist. (2) is fine, but (1) is not easy
1 is actually not as hard as people make it out to be, people just think 'mediation' and 'giving orders' are the same thing. I did care for developmentally disabled adults, and part of my training was in conflict mediation. I've also worked in a low-cost hotel that housed drug dealers, and preferred to de-escalate conflicts between tweakers myself instead of calling the cops. One of the huge problems with the US police forces is that they generally assume conflict mediation isn't going to work and jump straight to guns.
I also don't understand why it's not a political talking point that happy people don't commit crime to begin with. The US is allergic to taxes being used to increase happiness. Benefits keep getting shot down like, oh no, we can't have aid because people won't use it to better themselves, they're just going to stop stealing booze and start paying for it. Even their supposed downside is an actual improvement, I don't get it.
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