2d ago

Let them eat starlink!

stolen from https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1kmadyp/musk_is_hiking_starlink_costs/

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Damn, maybe you should move to a radical leftist city where fiber internet is $50 a month.
- Try 10€.
  
  Where?
  
  Romania probably.
  They went hard on fiber investments a decade or two ago and now they have some of the world's best internet.
  Last I checked you could get 10 Gbit for around 12€
  
  Best place in the world to acquire porn: it’s made there (farm to table), and you can download it nigh instantly
  
  Do they have porn markets like farmer markets?
  
  Last I checked you could get 10 Gbit for around 12€
  then it would be €1200 for a TB (assuming the price goes up linearly), so not cheaper than starlink
  
  10 Gbit as in speed, not data cap. In Europe (at least in most places afaik) we don't have data caps on fiber.
  So no, not even close.
  
  Then you should write Gbit/s or Gbps, not just Gbit
  Also I live in Europe and my internet is capped at 50 GB and the max speed is 30 Mbps, so 10 Gbps is baffling to me.
  
  Also in Europe (Germany). A cap to home Internet is kinda crazy to me. I don't measure my usage, but when I did, I usually used about 2-3tb per month.
  I have 1gbps down/300mbps up for 50€. Price is shit compared to other parts of Europe, but I can live with it.
  
  I usually used about 2-3tb per month
  are we talking about a whole household or just you?
  
  Just me. Since I took that measurement, I changed my habits. I download fewer games, I stream a lot more stuff locally, but I also added a server to my network that does a lot of stuff, including relatively high bitrate video streaming to ten users, so it's probably even more these days.
  
  I think you’re misreading that as “10 GB of data,” when it’s actually download speeds of 10Gb/s. I looked it up, and there doesn’t seem to be a data cap.
  So it’s quite a bit cheaper than Starlink.
  
  I'm not misreading. The comment clearly says 10 Gbit, not 10 Gb/s
  
  While you are technically correct, gigabit almost universally refers to speeds, and not size. You can probably blame the ISPs for that, since they love to advertise “gigabit service” and drop the bit about “per second.”
  
  well you can't blame me for misunderstanding the comment then can you
  
  I wasn’t blaming you. You were just one of today’s lucky 10,000, which is awesome!
  
  I read it, I spotted the typo.
  I knew what they were driving at.
  
  We pay 4.58€ for 1gbit/1gbit fiber in our condo association in Sweden...
  
  If only I could immigrate. Know any single swedes looking for a spouse?
  
  Whatcha got to offer? Gotta sweeten that pot, or you’ll lose to other bidders.
  
  how is this better? the twitter guy is ordering a TB not a GB
  
  That gigabit per second, without any datacap.
  Twitter guy is ordering 1000 gigabyte worth of data, or slightly over 2 hours of internet in Sweden at full speed.
  
  why is everyone dropping the "per second" part
  
  Because gigabytes (GB) are units of storage capacity, and gigabits (Gb) are units of data transfer rate.
  It's implied it's gigabits per second, as no one ever really measures it in like... Gigabits per hour, or year.
  
  A gigabit is defined as 1 billion bits of data which is equivalent to 8GB. Both are a unit of capacity.
  
  Technically correct, but that's not how it's actually used. Gigabit is not used in any meaningful context outside of as a measure of data transfer rates.
  
  That is new to me and in contradiction with any information I can find online but ok
  
  Radical leftist city.
  Also, I'd just like to say that even 240 is expensive as hell.
  
  For mobile satellite internet, it's an absolute steal. If that's what they had.
  
  I pay €18 for 250/100, of course unlimited data, and the company has no tracking and fully supports privacy etc. their main servers are based in the old cave where the pirate bay used to have theirs. It also comes with a great VPN, ID security and antivirus from f-secure (not that I use it since I'm on linux). And they just opened a datacenter inside an old war bunker in my city, with this description: "Freedom of communication and the virtual world need to withstand both Russian bombs and Donald Trump's Cloud Act. This industrial bunker is built for just that." In Sweden, if you hadn't guessed.
  
  Flat fee of ~€70 to connect and then free for as long as I live in this apartment. 1000/1000 speeds as well, pretty sick honestly
- 13-18€ for 1gig/1gig in Copenhagen is the going rate
  
  Sad German noises :/
  40€ for 250M over cable here. At least I don't have issues with congestion/slowdown in the evening, which is a common downside of cable.
  
  Sad German noises, never mind those, sad USA noises because yours is still better than ours.
- Us lucky fiber users, I can get 8gig symmetrical for $300 and 2 gig for $75 a month. Still nothing like other non American countries but damn do I have it good for living here.

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