14h ago

The defining trait of conservatism: selfishness

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I mean, it's more nationalism. Not all conservatisms have been nationalist, and not all nationalism is conservative.
- The Nationalism usually ends when they want cheap labor. Then it's okay for foreigners to come in, unless they advance their status through hard work economically and socially
  
  In that case they wouldn't be complaining, most of the international students are in grad school aka some of the cheapest labor available lol.
  
  Until they graduate
  
  Yes, but you assume they know literally anything about the academic system at all. They think anybody who works at a university is an "elite", and is therefore somehow being treated better than them.
  
  That's actually pretty unusual in the big picture. I'm guessing you're North American, maybe European? In east Asia, no such thing ever happened, and even in the West, historically (pre-WWII) immigration and free markets were championed by the liberal parties. Ditto from what I know of conservatism in other regions.
- All nationalism is conservative by definition. Nationalism is based on order and cultural/national idealized traits which are the hallmarks of conservatism.
  
  Nationalism and communism have had pretty heavy overlap over the years, even if it didn't start that way. If you accept communism as being possibly conservative, sure, I guess you could argue that.
  
  Depends whether you're talking about Marxism or whatever the fuck the USSR etc. was doing, which was a very different thing.
  
  Dog, "Communism" as practiced has always been (or at least quickly devolved into) authoritarian conservatism. Idk how that is even a debate. We have not had a successful communist movement yet.

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