7d ago

What things have you noticed triggers downvotes on lemmy?

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Saying anything critical of Hamas or non-critical of Israel
Expressing non-negative views about AI (LLMs)
Pointing out that not all members of a group are the same
Calling out extremism, for example posts inciting violence against CEOs or rich people
Defending unpopular individuals from false or exaggerated claims
Trying to defend yourself against false accusations
Highlighting obvious double standards in how people or ideologies are treated
Criticizing performative outrage or moral grandstanding, even respectfully
Asking sincere questions that challenge the thread’s emotional momentum
Stating that you’re politically neutral or independent
Defending due process or basic legal principles in emotionally charged situations
And of course, writing this response
- Saying anything critical of Hamas or non-critical of Israel
  That you?:
  https://feddit.uk/comment/17529782
  
  Case in point.
- Saying anything negative about Star Trek: TNG
  
  Say anything positive about Star Trek: Discovery, or even worse, say that it was actually good, that I enjoyed it, or—the absolute affront say that it is true canon, that it respected canon, and that it truly enriched the whole Star Trek Universe.
  
  omg yes
  
  I recently posted in a thread specifically about "hot takes" that the only Star Trek was the original series and Enterprise; that the rest were not Star Trek.
  Got a downvote before I even had a chance to refresh my screen. 😀
  
  I'm just left wondering why those two.
  
  Well I'm someone who was brought up on TOS reruns. So that was my Star Trek. My Star Trek was about "going boldly" into the unknown. Only TOS and Enterprise have that aspect. TNG was "going boldly on cargo missions" and "having meetings about critical situations" in the season I watched. I actually found myself bored by it. (Over many years I've seen, likely, most of the episodes here and there because of the circles I socialize in—and still haven't seen anything to change my mind.) DS9 was "boldy staying in place" which is almost the anti-Trek for me. And Voyager was "boldly fleeing home". None of that is the vibe I loved in TOS. Only in Enterprise did they go back to what it was that grabbed me with Star Trek in the first place.
  (I haven't seen any of the subsequent series at all: DIscovery, Below Decks, Picard, whatever. What I've heard about them from their fans suggests that I'll have them in the not-Trek pile as well, though.)
- With a lot of these topics, it depends on how the post or comment is worded. I've seen plenty of posts/comments where the user spoke about the topics and viewpoints in your list and didn't get downvoted for it.
  
  That is definitely true. There are people I interact with here that I disagree with yet somehow they don't downvote me (nor I them).
  
  I have a very simple rule that I rarely break. If someone's post is worth replying to, I don't downvote. It's only if a response would be pointless that I downvote.
  On rare occasions, I even upvote people who disagree with me if they said it well or made some good points or conceded some ground though not the "war" I think that's worth upvoting.
  
  And what, precisely, do you think downvoting accomplishes? It strikes me as very petty-to-pathetic.
  
  My client keeps a reputation counter totaling the up and downvotes someone receives from me. It tends to be asshole behavior that draws a downvote from me, so if someone manages to rack up a significantly negative total (I've never seen anyone hit even -10) that's a good sign to just block them.
  Other than that, nothing and it's rare I bother with them.
- Half of those will get you banned too. And sometimes the logs will be too embarrassed to admit it.
- The hatred for CEOs scares me. Luigi being worshipped for potentially murdering someone truly scares me. "But I also hate this group so I'm fine with it" is really dangerous...it's not ok for someone anti abortion to kill an abortion provider, and it's not ok to kill CEOs either.
  Thank you in advance for my downvotes they are a compliment ❤️
  
  The CEO is a murderer. He is an accomplice in preventing people from getting the healthcare they need by jacking up prices and denying claims.
  The shooter (which is not necessarily Luigi) directly helped the working class by making it clear being such a shit person as Brian Thompson is dangerous. And this is sadly one of the rare effective methods of taking down this corrupt system.
  
  well said you are very far down the radicalization funnel
  when will you take up arms for the cause?
  
  Do you agree with abortion doctors being shot dead?
  
  How is abortion relevant here? I'm in full support of women having the right to make decisions about their body.
  
  Someone that sees an abortion doctor as a murderer could feel justified shooting them. You said the CEO is a murderer, and the shooter directly helped the working class and that's one of the rare effective methods of taking down this corrupt system. It's justifications.
  Do you see the issue with these justifications?
  
  These are extreme times, people are going to hold extreme views. Most people are going to have a problem with those who are anti-extremist to the point that they imply moral equivalence between the extreme left and the extreme right. Yes, violence is generally bad. No, not all violence is equally unjustified.
  
  Yep things have got very polarised
  
  As someone who would sacrifice her authority to maintain a bit of level-headedness, I was one of your "upvoters". But as someone who blocked/ghosts me, you probably won't see it. So take that as you will.

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