Actual alternatives to Trump?
Actual alternatives to Trump?
Assuming Trump is legally removed from running for president under the 14th Ammendment, who even can fill his shoes?
All other potential candidates from the GOP Primary Debate are terrible at economics, optics or both. No one seems really electable, so what now? Switching to blue? Not voting at all? Vote third party? Retry Jan6?
From what I see, voting red is just not a solid choice if Trump is gone.
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Vote blue
I won’t vote blue. Too much racism, to much classism. They want to divide people into groups then make each group fight.
No thanks.
I just won’t vote if there isn’t a good candidate but I won’t vote for bigots.
Too much racism
That's a good joke. Republicans are placing bans on teaching black history, vote to keep confederate statues, have literal neo-nazis on their side, all while waving confederate flags.
Nothing the democrats could ever do could ever compete with that.
It’s not a joke. It’s why I won’t vote for the democrats.
If you don’t want to talk about conservative politics then why be here ?
If you don’t want to talk about conservative politics then why be here ?
Never said that I didn't want to talk about conservative politics. This question is a bad faith one.
It isn’t bad faith. You made a trolling comment.
The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.
I don’t agree with that. I believe people can be successful without a nanny state. I support small government which is a gripe of mine with the current Republican Party.
I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it. I won’t make that mistake again.
You made a trolling comment.
If by trolling you mean "critical", then sure, but otherwise no.
The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.
Not really. The democrats are a corporate owned, vaguely centrist to right wing party. As for your nanny state worries, those just honestly don't make sense.
I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it
Our political system is intentionally designed to only change slowly. So expecting massive change from 2 single votes is quite frankly ridiculous. And again, democrats are corporate owned, so even when they get in they largely don't do anything useful.
Just saying joke isn’t critical.
I wouldn’t say they’re centrist. They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies. The democrats are just a mess.
Both parties are owned by corporations. It’s why I want more parties. I’m not a fan of AOC but she has my respect for telling Amazon to screw off. I feel the same about de Santis and Disney.
Companies should not be running the show.
They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies.
None of that is true.
The democrats are just a mess.
They absolutely are, but not for the ressons you're listing. That's why I hate voting for them but unfortunately do because there are no better choices thanks to our dumb two party system.
Companies should not be running the show.
I agree. And thats why I think giving politicians money in any form should be criminalized, we should switch to STAR voting, elections should be run from shared fund pools, etc.
That is all true.
Democrats are pushing for defunding the police.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/defund-the-police-still-haunts-democrats/
Spending.
Democrats are the ones pushing to allow trans women into female safe spaces such as sports and locker rooms. While I support trans woman, I don’t support taking away from women to benefit trans women.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/defund-the-police-still-haunts-democrats/
A minority of democrats support this as its commonly understood, and so it's not true that democrats support this.
This isn't a source from the democrats and therefore doesn't support your conclusion that democrats have no spending plan.
I don’t support taking away from women to benefit trans women.
You don't need to take away from women for trans people to have rights.
Fucking lol jfc
The democrats want to divide everyone into victim classes and tell everyone they can’t make it because th deck is stacked against them. It’s learned helplessness.
Even the leader of the Neo Nazis voted for Biden.
No thank you. The democrats are just racist and bigots.
Even the leader of the Neo Nazis voted for Biden.
There are more Neo Nazis groups in America than just one. And the particular one you mention was immediately disavowed by Biden.
When Trump was endorsed by the same guy, Trump said nothing until he was pressured to do so.
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-campaign-disavows-richard-spencer-endorsement-2020-8
The valid conclusion here is not the one you're coming to.
Doesn’t change he voted for Biden.
A normal person wouldn’t disavow something. You only do that when people may be confused. Biden has a history of being a racist. So I understand him wanting to pretend to distance himself from Spencer.
Doesn’t change he voted for Biden
As already explained, this is not equivalent.
A normal person wouldn’t disavow something.
Yes, they absolutely would, especially when they're nazis.
No because no reasonable person would associate Nazis and Trump. Not even sure why we are talking about Trump since he’s not really a conservative.
What sort of idiot would think Trump who has a Jewish daughter is a Nazi?
Biden on the other hand has shown support for the KKK and other white supremacist ideology. I get why he tried to put a block to that one.
No because no reasonable person would associate Nazis and Trump.
That's not what the conversation is about though. You said:
"A normal person wouldn’t disavow something."
Are you unable to keep track?
What sort of idiot would think Trump who has a Jewish daughter is a Nazi?
I never made that claim.
Biden on the other hand has shown support for the KKK and other white supremacist ideology.
That's some horseshit. Your ability to fact check is lacking.
Yes a reasonable person wouldn’t need to disavow since nobody would associate the two.
No, you brought up Trump. You said he didn’t disavow Spencer. Correct as no reasonable person would think trump supported Spencer since his daughter is Jewish.
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
Would be nice if you even attempted to fact check things. Biden is well known for his racist views.
Yes a reasonable person wouldn’t need to disavow since nobody would associate the two.
Yeah that makes no sense. If a Nazi supports me I'm going to tell them to fuck right off regardless. That's the right thing to do.
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks
And this is just a propaganda group.
Im so sorry you have been so broken. I truly hope you recover one day.
I’m not broken. That’s a trolling comment.
If I was broken, I’d vote blue.
Please continue proving my point.
Its ok - we all wish you the best on your path to healing
I didn’t prove your point but you did prove mine. You’re not here to talk conservative politics but to troll.
“I disagree so you must be a troll”
You’ll get there buddy.
No. They explicitly want to disarm us.
Nonsense.
Have you not read the official DNC website on gun control? They want to disarm us.
Are you fucking joking? You’re literally citing a source you haven’t read and trying to give me shit about something you don’t even realize it doesn’t say? Literally the only way the DNC platform says they want to disarm you is if you are a “stalker, abusive partner, or an individual convicted of assault or battery”. Are you saying you’re one of those?
You need to take a good long look in the mirror and realize you don’t actually want to do what’s right, you just want to be told you’re right for doing what you’re already doing. It’s lazy, selfish, and destructive.
Without due process is the crucial bit
It’s not even taking away guns, just preventing their purchase! Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up until you’ve at least read the platform. Talking out of your ass when the information is RIGHT THERE is embarrassing you.
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf#page48
That is considered disarming.
So, in summary, in order for your comment to be true, we need to entirely redefine the word “disarm” to mean “prevent from additional purchase”, and we need to define “us” as “stalkers, abusive partners, and those convicted of assault or battery”.
You are at best being deliberately and dangerously reductive. And that’s being generous. You’re more likely being selfishly deceptive and willfully ignorant.
Oppressive regimes start with repression of the civilian ownership of firearms. Sooner or later that affects everyone, even Democrats.
Oh, we’re playing Slipperiest Slope? When can I start arming toddlers with bazookas?
You can’t say that literally any limitation on access to firearms is tantamount to disarmament. It’s absurdism.