Alien life in Universe: Scientists say finding it is 'only a matter of time'
Alien life in Universe: Scientists say finding it is 'only a matter of time'
Experts are optimistic of detecting life signs on a faraway world within our lifetimes - possibly in the next few years.
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Maybe they have found us and we're being prepared to hear that officially. There's been a lot of unprompted announcements like this lately from various governments and organizations.
This is a story about possible scientific evidence for signs of life (probably simple) on nearby planets, still many light years away. It is not a story about pseudoscientific claims that aliens are visiting us already, for which there is no, and never has been any, scientific evidence at all.
I don't think there's anything pseudoscientific. It's pure speculation (as far as I know). I just it fascinating how often "aliens" comes up lately. Chuck Schumer is introducing legislation to compel private business and individual who have artifacts of non-human intelligences to release them to the government under eminent domain.
He was a protege of Harry Reid, known fan of disclosure. Hillary Clinton famously is fascinated by UFOs as is John Podesta, her confidante.
I just find it very interesting. Why is this even being discussed.
We don't have congressional hearings about Bigfoot or the financial impact of Leprechaun gold, etc.
Why do you think there's so much attention paid to this? I have no idea but I do find it interesting.
“Chuck Schumer is introducing legislation to compel private business and individual who have artifacts of non-human intelligences to release them to the government under eminent domain.”
Absolutely pointless - it has never been proven that there are any such artifacts. What there are, are lots of baseless conspiracy theories which various politicians are pandering to, for their own political agenda.
Here's it is. You are saying there's a significant enough group of people who would think this was a reason to vote for, say a Democrat to carry a wide net, who a large enough group of them will hear about this little known, barely mentioned addition to a spending bill to make a difference in which election?
This sounds like some very hamfisted and ineffective politicking. Larry, in Butte, is going to love this. He and his MUFON buddies are going to put us over the top come next election when surely this will be big news!
Yes, that must be it.
I am glad that you agree with me now. After all, it seems far more likely that politicians will be politicking, compared to the alternative, that there is big, cross-party conspiracy to hide first contact with alien intelligences.
I want to make sure that you think there's a political voting block that will be swayed by this, is aware of the legislation, and that this is the only reason?
Could you just say yes or no on that?
I really have no idea. Politicians can be political without there having to be a voting block as their target.
Ok, so the most logical explanation for this is a career politician at the apex of his career did this despite the fact that the vast majority of people and his colleagues hearing about it would think he was a nut job. And he did this, risking appearing mentally incompetent to his financial backers, the party members who made him majority leader of the Senate, and his constituents to secure the votes of a fringe ufo motivated voting block.
Edit - actually your thesis is he did this without necessarily even wanting those fringe votes. Sounds like he is not making very good decisions.
I repeat, I really have no idea what his motives are, people do all sorts of irrational things, and politicians are not immune to that. I find it much easier to believe that this is someone being irrational, rather than we are being visited by aliens for which there is no proven evidence.
Last question and I'll stop.
Have you had an opportunity to review classified information on this that might be available to people like Chuck Schumer?
If not, what you are saying is there is no public evidence that you consider credible.
If you have been privy to the same information, I'm impressed. I have not so I try to consider motivations under the assumption that we're dealing with rational human beings. Not that every ufo nut is rational,I assure you they are not, but that the people writing legislation, sitting on committees, running the inspector generals offices looking into this, the director of NASA , etc. are rational.
They are not publically announcing anything definitive but there are far, far too many resources being devoted to this up simply handwave it away.
I remain skeptical until I see proof, I respectfully ask you to do the same. I'm using the word skeptical as its actual meaning: I have imperfect knowledge so I have not made a decision.
This isn't an announcement.
yeah those videos released by the pentagon, then all those hearings with pilots and an ex-intelligence guy, then nasa coming out and confirming there is unidentified stuff flying around...
we are either looking at gradual disclosure or a huge con at this point
Or just ignoring the details because believing fantastic things keeps hope alive.
NASA didn't remotely hint that it'd be aliens responsible, and in fact said they thinks it's probably not aliens, depsite not being able to confirm exactly which objects are what.
And to add to that, a lot of the things they ‘can't identify’ aren't actually unidentifiable, they're just not allowed to be discussed with the public, for the same reason why some things are blurred on Google Earth and all the same conspiracy people come out going ‘SEE?! PROOF!’, no, dude... national security secrets. Simple. We don't want China and Russia stealing our next generation drone technology, that's what UFOs are. Occam's Razor; sometimes the simplest answer is the most likely to be true. But what do I know. There will sure be egg on my face when they aliens come out on the news and say "what up, human dudes?".
it is reported by the pentagon they detected those objects going super fast in a way no other tech can do. i dont think china can do this when they can barely keep up with phones without relying on western supply chains. russia is sending soviet-era weapons to the battlefield in 2023.
and i wasnt implying nasa said anything about aliens. they said they could not identify the phenomenon
science usually puts aliens on the very end of plausible explanations for very good reason, but this has a good chance of being something we dont know yet, even if its not aliens.
unless its just a big con, which i think its unlikely now that a couple of reputable (even if american) institutions are saying something is up.
mind you though, we aint talking about blurry videos, but about released footage from the pentagon
I really have no idea what is going on.
A distraction. Paper mache and hallucinations a revelation do not make.
from what though. i wish i was distracted from all the garbage, ignorance sometimes is bliss.