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  • I can see you have no business experience. You're just trying to make up terms that do not meet the definitions in the real world.

    Capital is money, care, etc are capital. So is cash.

    I am not being snarky or hostile, I am enjoying your limited knowledge of a topic where you think you are right but are wrong.

    I am not confused about the topic at all. I am using real words and not some made up vocabulary. As you will see personal savings is right there on the list.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capital.asp

    • Ok. Capital is just cars and cash.

      The article you referenced explains (emphasis added)...

      While money itself may be construed as capital, capital is more often associated with cash that is being put to work for productive or investment purposes.

      I think my time is better spent now supplying my capital to a local drinking establishment.

      Enjoy ranting.

      • Yes, you supply the money to the business. That is the investment. That is what the owner is risking, their cash, their car, their home, all the things you have to be willing to tie as collateral back to the business.

        • The act of investment is purchasing (or exchanging) capital using cash or other assets.

          A business may acquire funding from investment, but in such a case the investor is trading cash for equity, bonds, or some other investment asset representing the present or future value of the company, or generated by the company. The investor is not supplying capital, but rather purchasing capital (or trading capital).

          The idea that the investor is supplying capital to the company is only a metaphor.

          Someone may lose money from an investment, but most capital is owned by immensely wealthy individuals, whose situation is vastly removed from that of ordinary workers, who actually do face the risk of losing their only home or their only car.

          Even small businesses are owned by individuals who have chosen to become business owners in order to profit from others' work. Any risk they assume is through an attempt to enrich themselves from gains not shared with workers. By not sharing their gains with those who are working to create them, business owners, large or small, are not helping workers, but rather preventing workers from advancing.

          • It isn't a metaphor. It is how it works.

            The gains are shared with the workers; it is called a paycheck, insurance, etc.. The workers do not share the losses. When I had my first business, my house was at risk if I did not repay the loan. The worker lost nothing if it failed. They would just go on to the next job. When I gave them the company, they had as much knowledge as you did and bankrupted it in three months. They didn't get the basics of accounting or finance either.

            You don't seem to grasp the basics. You seem to think the average business owner was given the company and has nothing at risk, which is purely mythical thinking. That is why our tax code heavily rewards people who own companies that create jobs. It is because they're taking a risk which rewards the community.

            Even on a larger scale, if Twitter does not do well, Elon loses billions. The workers don't lose anything. If the company does well, the workers can gain millions in their stock grants.

            It isn't the company preventing you from advancing. It is your mythical thinking of how things work. You are free to go start your own company and pay the workers their real value. Nothing stops you from doing that. You will be BK in very short order as you will have no reserves, if something breaks you will have no cash to repair it, you won't even be able to pay your PO at the end of the month but you are free to give it a swing.

            • If you chose to use your house as collateral in order for the opportunity to enrich yourself, then no one owes you any gratitude. You are not a hero. You acted in your own interests, not for helping others.

              If workers provided labor, and you only paid them wages, then you profited from their labor, and prevented them from advancing by realizing the full value of their labor.

              The only reason your house was at risk was because the bank hoards capital, using lending as a device to augment its own wealth.

              If capital were shared by everyone, then all the problems you describe would not occur. No one would lose houses or cars, no one would be a tens of millions of times richer than anyone else, and everyone would be paid fully for their labor, without distinction of owner versus worker.

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