How to disable S0ix and enable S3 Sleep on Ubuntu 22.04 on Dell Latitude 3410
How to disable S0ix and enable S3 Sleep on Ubuntu 22.04 on Dell Latitude 3410
Hello. I just want to ask, I already tried search many resources, but I still can't find a way to reduce battery drain while sleep on Ubuntu on Dell laptop.
I seen that it use S0ix, the new standard that many manufacturer use but when sleep it drains a lot battery, in just 6 hours the battery gone 0.
Any help is appreciated. This is company laptop and it requires me use ubuntu (I don't like it but I don't have options to changes OS/distro).
Thanks
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I remember that on new generations of Intel chips there is no support for S3 at the chipset level, which means that the operating system physically cannot enter the laptop into this mode. On Windows S0ix is better optimized, that's all. Linux has problems with this.
Even on windows S0ix is garbage
It is better than on Linux but definetly not very good.
Have it on work laptop... It wakes laptop for random things, if I put it in backpack I can find empty battery in the morning... Nope, s0ix does not work at all on windows anyway.
It works quite well on Microsoft Surface Pro. I think a lot depends on the specific manufacturer/drivers. But overall, yes, S0ix is much worse than S3.
And it could be that corporate bloatware is breaking it. I know, and I wasted some time looking if it's possible to use S3 state (nope, it's not on hardware I got -,-)
:(
Yeah. MS has stopped using S3 since Win8, so Bios vendors and OEMs have been letting it atrophy.
MAYBE because they WANT your battery to be EMPTY in the morning so it HAS to go through MORE charge cycles, leading to your battery DYING earlier, so you have to buy a new battery, which means getting a new laptop. COINCIDENCE?
The Nintendo 3DS, like most Nintendo systems, had the hardware for several generations of older systems in it. It had the full GBA hardware, and it could fully play almost all GBA titles. Nintendo gave away a few GBA titles as a "super secret squirrel fan club" promotion, but never sold any on the 3DS. They threw away a lot of possible game sales, but why?
They'll never say, but the most obvious failing is that the 3DS could not sleep while a GBA game was active. You can close your bivalve console, and instead of it going to sleep the game just keeps on going. That was an unacceptably inconsistent and bad experience for a kid-friendly console.
Nintendo, who controls the firmware, the OS, who validates every game, WHO DESIGNED OR SPEC'D EVERY SINGLE CHIP IN THEIR BOM, simply could not figure out sleep. And they lost a medium-sized fortune in BC game sales over that.
Maybe sleep is just a hard problem?
They didn't care for GBA games enough.
I like how just the caps words read. Very concise.
- Don’t buy a new laptop when you just need a battery
- This is real bad user experience, and one of the larger reasons I use a MacBook in spite of its (and apples) many many flaws
For point one, that's not possible on today's anti-consumer laptops.
For point two, apple keeps reinventing the computer with their nonstandard sh!t like M1.
@yum13241 @NightAuthor I have to take exception with the idea that Apple makes shit because it is not standard. They are making Macs, so for their platform, that is the standard. If you mean they should have to document their architecture to the outside world, I might agree, but that’s not the world we live in.
Maybe we should have a standards based platform that can be used for opensource platforms like Linux, but that’s an issue Linux hardware developers have to do.
Yeah, and now billions of programs have to be recompiled, if not rewritten. At least one person's workflow will break. There's a difference between making a Personal Computer and a locked down console that doesn't run games all that well. Apple is doing the latter, by pushing architectures that lock people into their OSes.
@yum13241 but don’t programs that run on Linux Arm also have to be recompiled?
Don’t misunderstand me, I think there may be cause for Apple to be forced to open their ecosystem more, but operating systems are always unique unto themselves.
No one is forced to use ARM to have a good Linux system. You are forced to use ARM to have a good Mac.
@yum13241 no one forces you to buy a Mac. You get that most people who buy a Mac are likely to be okay with being in the ecosystem just like most people who use Linux know it is not going to run all the Windows apps. I agree that there should be a more open approach to these things, but in an economic system that prizes competition and profit above all things, closed systems tend to become the norm to distinguish them form their competitors.
Idk if this is by design, but I was not notified of this @mention