Lewiston, Maine shootings leave at least 16 dead
Lewiston, Maine shootings leave at least 16 dead
At least 16 people are dead in multiple shootings in Lewiston, Maine Wednesday night, according to multiple law enforcement sources. Follow here for the latest.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/176042/ar15-gun-culture-unmade-america
The gun that unmade America was built to address a secret, long-suppressed problem: The American fighting man just wasn’t that good at fighting. And if the AR-15 is so feared these days, it’s because it’s brought that sub-competence to the civilian world, where now literally any idiot can use it to unleash mayhem and death.
Tell me you don't know shit about guns without telling me you know shit about guns...
That is so original and funny. Have you tried reddit?
Have you tried posting the onion article that always gets posted with these threads? You'll probably get a bunch of laughs
Yeah! I mean look at this former responsible gun owner in Maine! He has a AR-15 and is clearly very good at killing innocent people.
So they're not just for morbidly obese middle-aged men, with neither combat training nor the discipline to undertake it, to parade around with in a poorly articulated tantrum about masks, posing at a sloppy attention for the Fox News cameras.
The only thing these damn gun-grabbers seem to know about guns is how many innocent people they kill and how seldom they deliver on their promises.
Dude was barred from owning firearms....again what law would have stopped it?
A full ban on semi-automatic weapons. Thanks for your support.
Lol so basically all firearms? And you plan on going and taking the 450+ million of them in civ hands?
They can either comply with the new laws or become illegal gun owners that get found and charged like any other illegal gun owner.
Of course, the "are you going to take them? " isn't meant to be a logistical problem, it's meant to be a threat.
If you want to fire on innocent people because you didn't like democracy, go right ahead -- it's not like legal gun owners aren't doing that every day already.
At least it will be the cause of the problem dying in a hail of bullets, rather than innocent people.
Again who are you sending to take them? Because you have just started a civil war...and bad news, those police you hate...are mostly on the gun owning side. You really haven't thought this through.
I'm just happy that you're admitting that "responsible gun owners" would become domestic terrorists if democratically decided laws didn't suit them and police selectively enforce laws and procedures.
I guess they're not "good guys with guns" after all but violent, political extremists who are one inconvenience away from killing innocent people and wow, doesn't that lens bring the last 25 years of pro-gun policy into a sudden, sharp focus.
Anyway, you'll have the same options as everyone always does when laws like this change.
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You can surrender any illegal weapons, admitting that you never actually needed them and all of your flowery, self-aggrandising rhetoric was nothing by role-playing.
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You can undergo the background checks, take the safety courses, register your weapons, wait through a usefully long waiting period, store your guns securely and accept that you'll lose your firearm rights if you hit your wife or have your gun recovered in a crime -- things that you could have done at any point, but chose to let people keep getting killed by legal gun owners instead.
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You can hide your illegal guns away, unable to take them to ranges, show them off on the internet or point them at your wife because if you're ever caught with them, congratulations, you're now a felon and are no longer entitled to your gun rights anyway.
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You can become the next Maine shooter in a bizarre attempt to convince the country that you should have been allowed guns with minimal oversight, optional safety and widely published loopholes.
Notice how there isn't a single way out where you're not a piece of shit?
That's because gun owners who fight to preserve a clearly flawed system are pieces of shit, just like the people who fought to keep slavery, or keep segregation, or prevent women voting, or keep homosexuality illegal or any of the other morally bankrupt things the right-wing has rushed to defend.
Lol way to show how ignorant you are. Again you want a civil war? Because congratulations you just started one. No 2/3rds of the states will ratify the Constitution to remove the 2nd as well, and more people are pro gun than people who aren't.... considering the majority of you antigun groups are white picket fence types that live in ivory towers...just like you have clearly demonstrated here.
You can call gun owners pieces of shit all you want, but that doesn't magically make you the good guy. Majority of repubs are gun owners, and a good 1/3rd of Dems are now as well (and we're growing at a rapid pace). So while you only pop your head up to kick and scream when a shooting like this occurs, the rest of us are trying to push for policies that actually will curb the suicides and violence overall.
Again you want a civil war?
I'm completely okay with you repeatedly admitting that gun owners would use violence to overthrow democracy if that democracy decided that human lives were more important than their hero fantasies.
There's no need to dress it up with self-aggrandising threats of civil war, you can just say what you mean: If anyone ever comes to your door to peacefully enforce a law you've broken, you'll kill them.
So while you only pop your head up to kick and scream when a shooting like this occurs, the rest of us are trying to push for policies that actually will curb the suicides and violence overall.
A lie that doesn't hold up with even a glance at the history books.
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I know shit about guns. That article is fairly accurate.
No it's not, it's just more bullshit trying to vilify a plastic rifle. It's not more deadly than any other semi auto rifle.
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Considering the AR15 is just a plastic semi auto rifle, and the article makes it out to be a more deadly rifle...it absolutely is a shit article