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Mercedes are such a waste of money.
This. If you have the money for a Benz, test drive other cars at their price points. You’re probably going to get more bang for your buck out of other manufacturers.
Although, if you want a car interior that’s styled like Bushwood Country Club, go for the Benz. They’ll happily give you more wood veneer than you ever wanted.
Yeah, totally. They look nice, but I'd take a Toyota or Lexus specifically, over a Mercedes every time.
Yeah, I ended up leasing an Audi and then a Volvo after test driving some comparable Benz’s.
I’d totally do a modern Audi again. Probably not a Volvo though. The new Geely-owned Volvo is making cool looking things that are not very reliable.
20 years ago it would’ve been the other way around. The Volvo would be reliable and the Audi would be falling apart.
Yeah, Volvo is made in China now right? I wanted to buy my wife one a few years ago but I heard the quality isn't what it was in the 80, 90, 00's.
Not all of them. The new EX30 EV and the Polestars are.
IMHO, I think the big problem is that the current ICE platform was really designed to be a hold-over.
They’re moving aggressively toward electrification, which is rad, but it also means that the ICE architectures were not built to last for the business - and in turn, they’re kind of not built to last for the customer. A lot of people start having mechanical problems ~20k in.
Volvo came up with one platform that covers most of their ICE / hybrid vehicles. They can plug in and out batteries, turbochargers, superchargers, etc based on what the car needs. But, at the end of the day, it’s kind of an overly complex one-size fits all platform, and it’s prone to failures.
I get the sense that their play was, minimally invest in ICE, but remain competitive, and cut to EV asap. Meanwhile, encourage people to lease because the current crop are not really engineered for the long run.
Audi/VW are solid machines. I have a GTI and reliability has been on par with my first civic. Just oil, brakes, and tires.