‘I am a Zionist,’ says Biden at Hanukkah event, promises continued military assistance to Israel
‘I am a Zionist,’ says Biden at Hanukkah event, promises continued military assistance to Israel
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To be clear didn't read any of that horseshit past your first sentence because clearly it would be a waste of time.
So everybody has an idea of how much energy to waste trying to have conversations with you I wan a make this really clear. Are you saying there is no objective way to know whether or not Biden said he is a zionist who will fully support Isreal here?
Because if that's the case I think you're confusing "objective reality" for "literacy"
Because we're literally commenting on an article that directly quotes Joe Biden as saying that.
So unless you're saying what Biden says has no connection to reality (you could probably get somewhere with this but pretty sure that's not your point) not really sure what you're backup is.
Epistemic fallacy, non sequitur, strawman fallacy, goalpost moving.
His argumentation was clear in that it was directed at questioning one, and only one, attribute mentioned by you, specifically:
Then again Biden himself is not anymore progressive or any less Zionist than any Republican candidate, he is to the right of many of them. [emphasis mine]
You, on the other hand, argued for:
Then again Biden himself is not anymore progressive or any less Zionist than any Republican candidate, he is to the right of many of them. [emphasis mine]
Which is neither valid as a reply, nor is it relevant to the raised issue.
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Attempted ad hominem, bandwagoning, infantile reply.
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Except it isn't, as you'd know if you did any studying beyond looking up a list of fallacies on wikipedia...
I take it back, I wasn't kidding, I would give you a swirlie given the opportunity.
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I would give you a swirly, given the opportunity
Try if you wish... there's a lot of muscle for you to go against.
You do realise this only makes you look more childish, yes?
I was going to vote for Biden but now I won't because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they've even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.
absolutely, but it's funny to me. No serious offense intended, friend
How kind of you to offer, but I'm not interested in that. My relationships with people on the internet are strictly platonic.
Marvel is not real life
Astute observation.
What does "Zionist" mean to Joe Biden? Have you considered whether you're using the same definition? Because my progressive grandparents, both a little older than him, called themselves "Zionists" but did not support Israel or their colonialism/genocide.
According to 90% of both parties in the house criticism of the state of Isreal is anti semitism so if you wanna get mad at somebody for conflating terms go yell at a liberal.
Also love that you're trying the argument that him saying he's a zionist doesn't necessarily mean he supports what Isreal is doing, conveniently ignoring the second half of his sentence was "which is why I will continue to support Isreal in what they are doing"
Also just so you know when you come in here, insist we have to vote for Biden, say that Biden saying "I'm a zionist which is why I will continue to support isreals war" doesn't mean that Biden supports what Isreal is doing, tell us to go fuck ourselves, and then tell us we dont understand how anything works that just confirms everybody already pretty firmly held beliefs that you're full of shit and not worth engaging with, and deffinitly not worth supporting your candidates.
Do you know what the word "context" means? Because the beginning of the statement talked about Hamas.
Hamas ≠ Palestine. I'm sorry that's difficult for you to grasp, but we can't simply ignore it, like you.
Quiet, liberal. The adults are talking.
Discrediting of opinion isn't a valid path of argumentation. Don't lower yourself to the tatics of the right simply because it's easy... (unless it's a lost case, like a Nazi. Then it becomes justified).
Have a look at telorand's post history and you'll see that they're pretty clearly a lost cause nazi troll.
Doesn't look like that to me. Admittedly, I only went 4 pages deep, but I couldn't find any evidence of your claim.
Well they've purged their comments now.
Cope and seethe, lib.
I'm a communist.
Put your money where your mouth is. What do you do in real life? Are you an organizer?
Are you? Because to me, you seem like the regular garden variety, run-of-the-mill, imageboard troll.
Lol. You think y'all are adults. That's adorable
Aren't you a kracker with a grandfather that is a proud zionist?
Aren't you a dishonest interlocutor who takes things out of context to appear like you have a point?
How many times has your grandfather said the N word?
Completely irrelevant to the discussion and, ironically, very childish.
I was going to vote for Biden but now I won't because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they've even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.
