Are bans propagated to other sites?
Are bans propagated to other sites?
This morning I was forced to ban about 18 users for being obvious spambots. That deleted their content on my instance. Are they now banned on other instances, too? I'm just trying to figure out what the best process is for eliminating these spambots for good before they flood all of our feeds.
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As far as I understand it, the instance that hosts the user and the content is the only instance that can propagate deletions of the content/user. So if that user's home instance bans them, then the ban propagates. Otherwise, the ban is only local.
So is the right process to report the post? (I'm assuming reports go to the home instance's community moderator.)
And if that's the case, does that mean we need to avoid clicking the checkmark to "resolve" the report on our instance until the remote moderator has done something about the problem?
I'm actually not clear on how the reports work, but my assumption is that they go to both the instance you're reporting from and to the instance that hosts the content. I would also assume that the resolve status is local to each instance so it shouldn't matter when/if you click the resolve button.
But these are all assumptions, I don't actually know how the reports work.
Do you have some time to test it? You can post something to Ninja Tea Room and then report it. Let me know and I'll confirm that the report exists on our site. Then you can resolve the report and I can confirm one way or the other whether the status changes locally here, and whether the reason propagates. We will take care not to ban you. :-)
Sure! I just posted and reported it. Let me know if you see the report in your moderation queue.
The report just arrived in our moderation queue. Please click the resolved checkmark on your side.
Next, please post a second post in the Tea Room and this time I will report it, get confirmation from you, and then I will resolve it.
Ok, I have marked my report as resolved on my instance and took no action (so I have left the post up on my instance).
I have just made a 2nd post. I have not reported it.
Resolving the report on your side seems to have had no effect on our side. In Lemmy UI, there is a very subtle color difference in the checkmark before and after it is clicked, so I took a screenshot of the report.
Before:
After:
I guess there's a chance that it may take time for the change in state to propagate to me, so I'll watch it over the next 20 minutes or so to see if it changes.
I am now reporting the second test post.
Not seeing a report on the second test post yet.
It's definitely there. I guess this proves that some propagation is slow. This is what we see on our reports list right now:
Still not seeing it.
My guess is that actually the report doesn't get federated back out. I think reports are only federated to the instance that hosts the content and the instance the reporter belongs to. So in this case, lemmy.ninja is both the instance that hosts the content and the instance to which you belong to.
In the opposite direction, when I reported the first post, it went to my instance since I am the reporter. And to your instance, since your instance hosts the content.
Assuming I am correct, this could end up being a bit of a problem. That means, users on my instance could go about spamming the fediverse, and I would never see reports of their activity unless they are spamming communities on my instance. The only way I have to know that they're being bad users is if I notice we get defederated or if an admin of another instance specifically reaches out to me.
At a minimum, I would like to be able to click on a user's name, and be able to report them to their home instance.
Yes this is correct. Though it could use some testing to see that things really work like they should.