MAGA Republican Pledges “End of Democracy” to Rabid Cheers at CPAC | Republicans at CPAC 2024 are openly vowing to take down democracy.

I mean, you both have something akin to a point.

Yes, establishment democrats are happy to benefit from the “but the other guys are evil!” rhetoric. Both sides do, actually. We have two political parties that coexist in a broken system. They feed each other and rely on each other to be the “other” for their own power and monetary gain.

However, there is a time and place where this matters enough to bring into a conversation. In certain times and places, like this one, pointing it out when we are staring down the barrel of a vindictive narcissist wannabe dictator and a party full of sycophants that are literally sounding the call to usher literal fascism through the door because they can’t win even after rigging the system to benefit their fringe beliefs serves only those people who rely on suppressed voter turnout (hint: it’s those fascists).

You’re not wrong. The system sucks. It’s been broken for a long time. But you’re not advocating for a better system right now. You’re literally making calls to aid the people hoping to destroy it further and replace it with a white, christian ethnostate.

Do you see the difference? If this were a conversation about the system being fucked, yeah, that’s where you talk about it. But when the topic at hand is “group of politicians aiming to install fascism in next election,” the answer can’t be “dems old.” Anyone who is anti-fascist would back any horse to evade fascism.

Again, that answer sucks. We all know it sucks. But that’s not the question right now. The question is “how do we keep this fascist and his fascist cronies away from the levers of power?”

... It had literally everything to do with his popularity. Are people able to vote for who they want or not? Did not Bernie give Hilary a run for her money.

Did almost every average Democrat still vote for Hilary instead of Bernie? Did young people still not vote for him?

All of it yes. Blame Hildawg having so much political influence, more experience at the presidential level, and money particularly with the democratic establishment as much as you want, it's literally part of political capital and knowing when to use it.

Bernie didn't run against Biden after. Bernie didn't try to get on VP ticket for either. I voted for him every chance I got, which was exactly once. He even won nearly everywhere that wasn't populous.