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Remember that Hilary’s campaign was the ones that got Trump elected in the primaries, just so they can do this.
Your leap of logic here ought to win some sort of award
To everyone else: Remember, they’re only investing so much incessant time and effort making these things and posting them, and arguing with everyone and getting all vigorous with their bad faith arguments, because you voting or not will absolutely make a difference in the election. It’s of a piece with gerrymandering, striking black and Democratic voters off the rolls, under equipping polling places in urban areas — a concerted effort to fight to undo the power that voting has to exercise influence that they don’t want you to have.
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If voting didn't work, there wouldn't be so much effort poured into disenfranchising and disenchanting people from doing it.
what they said is absolutely true.
So Hilary did have the power to impact elections just by deciding to, but instead of using her powers to get herself elected, she decided to bend her will to getting Trump the nomination, specifically so that after she lost we'd have four years of Trump and then four years of Biden all leading up to her master plan to coming to fruition: An election between Biden and Trump which doesn't make much of a difference anyway, while she sits on the sidelines forgotten. Now that you point it out, I'm surprised I didn't see it before. It's all so clear now.
No, don't explain more about what you're claiming happened. I don't know what you think went on instead of what I just said, and I don't care.
So Hilary did have the power to impact elections just by deciding to, but instead of using her powers to get herself elected, she decided to bend her will to getting Trump the nomination, specifically so that after she lost we’d have four years of Trump and then four years of Biden all leading up to her master plan to coming to fruition: An election between Biden and Trump which doesn’t make much of a difference anyway, while she sits on the sidelines forgotten.
i don't know if you could have made a more bad-faith interpretation
You compared influencing primaries to the election between parties. Pirmaries are easier to influence, in fact, they are not free at all. That is the whole point of this scam system, that primaries are rigged and you are only allowed to vote between to insane candidates that have mostly the same policies that make rich richer and poor poorer.
You are wrong, I and most people that ridicule elections, don't tell people not to vote. Saying it doesn't matter doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, just that if you actually want to do something important, it will not be with just voting. If you are so interested in voting, by all means, go vote. But if you are not actually doing anything other then voting or calling people to vote in elections, you are either doing nothing at all or just giving people false hope.
Ah, so you were actually posting an inspiring message about the power of one person to make a difference if they work for change, and the vital importance of getting involved in activism beyond electoral politics at this pivotal point in history. Silly me, how could I have misunderstood.
Probably because you got called out so you got focused on that without accepting it and asking, "ok I was wrong, but what should I do then?". Instead you focused on defending yourself.
Defending myself against fascism winning in this election, yes. Absolutely, 100%. I plan to continue to do so.
the united states is not the beacon of freedom it shows itself to be in movies. it is an oppressive regime that is illegally occupying the hawaiian islands. what are you defending? is it perhaps your rights? your rights are secured by the exploitation of millions if not billions of people.
voting didn't get people to take LGBTQ+ people seriously. it took a riot and anti-police action. history was not won by votes.