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I just find it funny how even after countless people repeatedly asking him to show solid proof of Yuzu illegally distributing encryption keys the best he could come up with is some random ass user on Twitter saying the same bs claims without any proof; Twitter, a platform that's totally not over 50% bot's and a totally reputable source of information, just the peak of human intelligence over there š.
I mean 90% of twitter is just rage, bait or misinformation lmfao
I've been digging into the thread using nitter and all I see is a few screenshots of allegedly "GoldenX86_64" talking some crap about a "stash" then further searching found more screenshots with conflicting information and saying unproven crap about Ryujinx. Notice how neither of them show user ID so it's impossible to verify that either of them are the real GoldenX86_64, I can literally fake this shit myself using a private server.
More over, GoldenX86_64 wasn't even a Yuzu team member despite the headliner claims, they were a 3rd party contributor and nothing more. How do I know this? Because their Github account is right here with all of its history. Literally, just usegit log&git blame.
Also, I find it funny how nobody making these claims thought for a second to show any proof that these are the same person via user ID or other methods, when it took me less than 5 minutes to find the real GoldenX86_64's personal email & legal name.
Lastly, using Wayback to view the now deleted source of these claims (which is suspect as hell), you'll notice discrepancies such as "Files Owned by dysonshere.com" as well as many other mentions of dysonshere.com so... WHO IS DYSONSHERE ??, as you see can it was registered in 2022-12-31.
You expect me to believe that the devs were using this so-called "stash" for a project that started in 2013? When this "stash" was registered literally a little less than 10 years later? You can't be fucking serious. š¤¦š½āāļø
More over there's no proof that Yuzu owned this domain either, therefore even if they used this "stash" which is unproven, the DMCA requires that Yuzu be the one facilitating distribution, therefore users and 3rd party contributors sharing a link on discord to a 3rd party "stash" doesn't qualify. More over, it's additionally important to note, that the use of ROMs for emulator testing doesn't qualify as copyright infringement as the copyright content regardless if dumped from legitimate hardware with legal homebrew tools or otherwise isn't included in the source. So as the DMCA requires them to be the distributors via the ROMs or via the source, which they don't meet, they don't qualify. The only legal stance that could possibly be stood on would be if they were using the SDK, which is again, unproven.Oh, and one more thing. Why the fuck would the devs have PORN in their alleged "dev stash" ??
The math is just not mathing.
As per US law, Nintendo needs to prove beyond a responsible doubt that Yuzu infringed on their copyright. While all these allegation look bad, there are big gaping holes.
If this is all Nintendo had the case would no doubt go to Yuzu. Assuming they could possibly survive the court fees and multi year lawsuit(s) Nintendo is going to drag them though. It doesn't matter anyway, it was settled out of court so in the end Yuzu still won and didn't go bankrupt in the process, as the law stays unchanged and GPLv3 does it's thing.š¾š¬š¾š©š½āš»š”It never mathed up. This why i asked very simple questions and never got anything remotely close to an answer. Ultimately it comes down to one thing though... if Nintendo was 100% correct and yuzu was 100% wrong like this lunatic believes.... wouldn't they have never settled out of court and pursued complete and utter devastation of everyone related to yuzu just to set the court precedent alone? Nintendo didn't. So...
Exactly!! Nintendo knew that if Yuzu were to press on and bleed financially just slow enough that Nintendo would take the L. Having big implications essentially permanently legalizing emulators, never being able to challenge them in any meaningful way. They just wanted the project gone so gave them a favorable deal that wouldn't complete bankrupt Yuzu, so they took it. Walked away from the project and now it's in the communities hands not to mention in the arctic vault.
Don't forget about archive.org
wouldn't they have never settled out of court and pursued complete and utter devastation of everyone related to yuzu just to set the court precedent alone? Nintendo didn't. So...
Uhhā¦. You donāt understand how a laws suit progresses apparently as well. To file a suit, you need to explain damages, if the plaintiff accepts them, you canāt suddenly go, no we want to fuck you more! They have to be reasonable and accountable, so hence why it was what it was and not anything more.
You truly have zero clue about this and this is the second time you have shown why no one should listen to you.
I already said the stuff has been deleted from their servers.
How do you expect to get solid proofā¦?
And Iām not going to engage with an absolute moron that thinks they canāt be held personally liable as the owner of an LLCā¦.. Even after giving them proof they want to ignore it and pretend they werenāt wrongā¦. Thatās not someone who will ever willingly admit they were wrong, so thereās no point in engaging further.
Even if Iām wrong, but thereās no proof they did anything right either hereā¦. They are still completely wrong about not ever being able to be personally liable with a LLCā¦ā¦ the rest of what they said have lost all merit, defend the moron if you want. I gave them unequivocal proof they were wrong about something, they blew it off, I can do the same with this emulator BS and still wouldnāt belief itā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦
All they have done is continually move the goalposts and ignore anything against them, so fuck me for doing the same back. Iām not going to engage with a bunch of people blindly defending someone who didnāt even try to defend the product, when others did with zero funds. Itās hilarious, they wanted their money and to run, and you guys are defending them for doing it. AWWWHHHH
You also seem to be ignoring the big part where it says an llc or its owner can be liable for its companies actionsā¦. Or the actions yuzu didā¦ you guys are claiming he didnāt do it, so itās not wrongā¦. Uhhā¦ heās personally responsible for anything his company he operated didā¦.. this is the part you guys canāt fucking figure out lmfao. It was also literally spelt out for you morons multiple fucking times. āIt wasnāt himā doesnāt fucking matterā¦ his company did itā¦. He fucked up even if he didnāt! Fucking hell lmfao, you guys have no idea how businesses operate or how they can be exposed.
Also, nice alt account lmfao.
You clearly don't understand US copyright law, that's the problem here. This argument is ultimately pointless, Nintendo trying to force Japanese copyright law on the US will be a never ending battle. GPLv3 makes it live on, just how GPLv3 makes Revanced live on. It'll never stop.
And yet again the goalposts get moved instead of addressing anythingā¦. What a fucking shockerā¦.
Why is this suddenly about āUSā copyright? Nothing about the US has been mentioned until now, and where was Yuzu based anywaysā¦.
You're asking the wrong question.
The question is where was the lawsuit filed?"Nintendo of America filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court, District of Rhode Island, against Tropic Haze LLC, the developer of the āYuzuā emulator."
Huh, so it IS an llc and he would be personally liable for any illegal activities his company didā¦. Even if he did nothing wrong himselfā¦..
Wow. You couldnāt have provided a worse piece of evidence against your crusade than thatā¦
His "company" so excluding random ass users and 3rd party contributors. US copyright law is based on precedence. I'm sure you're aware of the list. Also, check out GPLv3 while you're at it.
If I have weapons cache of guns and āaccidentallyā leave the door unlocked, would I not be liable if they found that out? Yes, this is the exact same situation, they left their door unlocked and could have done something to prevent this from happening. They didnāt, so they are complicit. Itās not just about copyright, why are you sticking to this like itās some smoking gun or somethingā¦.?
Theres plenty of precedence going both ways, you just have to look at the correct way for it to click in your head.
The companies actions or negligence, provided means, as described above, thereās plenty of precedence where you will be liable. Sorry this doesnāt fit with your head bias, but facts donāt care.
Sorry this doesnāt fit with your head bias, but facts donāt care.
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.The only facts youāve provided have gone against your crusade.
Soā¦ yeah youāre kinda missing the point if you think youāve provided any facts and itās ironic that I canāt see my head bias. What bias? Iāve given you the facts lmfao.
And instead of moving the goalposts, we move to insulting when proven wrong, what a fucking shockerā¦.
Those are your own words. Unfortunately for you, Nintendo still lost. GPLv3 is a tweaked Copyright licensing agreement aptly nicknamed "Copyleft" with strict rights, Nintendo will never be able to kill the Hydra no matter what. They actually need to win to change the law, but they settled instead meaning section 107 of the DMCA, 1998 US copyright law goes unaltered and the original developers move on, and the community builds on top and alter the project, as per the rights granted by GPLv3. Perhaps a project that'd reach enough funding fast enough to challenge Nintendo may go for it, till then GPLv3 is a sleeping multi-headed dragon Nintendo hasn't been able to stomp out.
