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... Are people still on about this? Is this just because right wing lunatics hate Alec Baldwin because he occasionally says Democrat things and did a good impression?
Nobody gives anywhere near this much of a shit any time a stunt person dies on a movie or even when Brandon Lee died under very similar circumstances ("fun" fact: The Crow tragedy is arguably why we have John Wick).
Fault is pretty well documented at this point. Beyond that it is just the usual weregild paid so that production companies don't have to care about their lapses in safety.
The tweet is from January. The trial only started today, so I’d argue it’s topical. But there’s no limit on the age of posts in this community. As the community grows, or someone other than me submits a post we’ll revisit that rule. As I’m doing all the legwork for this community and two others, I’m disinclined to make things harder for myself right now tbh - plus I don’t use Twitter or Facebook so I’m just stealing posts I like from Reddit to get things going. If anyone wants to do the same, the dystopia app for sight impaired users is free and has no ads. Just don’t vote or comment and Reddit won’t benefit from your views.
I’ll be making a stickied post in the coming days asking for additional moderators and for feedback on the rules. I’d encourage everyone to have their say then - I would like this community to be a group effort, rather than me just making the rules as I go. Meanwhile, please feel free to post your own content and help make this community more diverse (and interesting!)
EDIT: I’m getting myself confused. I’ve already made a stickied post requesting additional moderators and inviting people to discuss the rules and/or the way this community is being run.
That’s the place to bring up your concerns. I’d prefer to keep the post comments relevant to the post and as conflict free as possible. Please post in the stickied thread, or create your own discussion thread.
And that's great. But if all you can fill this with is stolen memes by other people... who may actually be posting borderline right wing propaganda?
Is it really worth fighting to build up that kind of community?
Because, as has been pointed out:
- The person in the tweet doesn't actually demonstrate any meaningful credentials. So it isn't even an example of your sidebar
- The topic is increasingly associated with chuds
- This is a topic that was discussed to death months ago
And I'll add a 4. Stealing memes from other people is some musk level bullshit. Literally.
I’m pretty left wing myself, and British, so I feel reasonably sure I’m not pushing any right wing agenda. Discussion of the topics posted is completely fine as long as everyone follows the community, instance and site-wide rules. It’s perfectly acceptable for people to have different opinions from me or you, as long as they are respectful in discussing them.
They’re not memes, they’re screenshots. Have you heard of content aggregators? It’s a pretty standard thing - and it probably accounts for at least 50% of what you see online.
2.5k subscribers suggest people they’re enjoying this community and content. There was remarkably little content on lemmy a month ago that wasn’t tech related or actual memes. If we want lemmy to succeed we need light hearted communities as well as the serious stuff. I want lemmy to succeed, I don’t want to go back to Reddit, so I’m doing my part. Why are you here if you don’t like the content? Why don’t you post your own content if you like the community but not the content? Why don’t you volunteer to mod if you don’t like the way I’m running this community?
As to your questions;
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I feel confident that a squad leader of specialist army division will have had a weapons safety lesson or two in their time. This meets the posting guidelines I wrote, imo.
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I don’t know what a chud is. But assuming it’s something bad, I think it’s important to talk about contentious issues as long as everyone follows the rules. Avoiding topics completely just because chuds (?) also talk about the topic is silly. Bigots, rule/aggressive people, and people arguing in bad faith are not tolerated here. Report rule breaking comments and they will be deleted. Violators of the rules get one warning before being banned.
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This community didn’t exist a month ago. The shooting was not discussed here. This community is primarily for entertainment purposes - although discussion is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged. It is possible to discuss something without getting too serious about it.
You aren’t everyone. You aren’t the discussion police. If you’d like to dictate what people can or can’t post and talk about, create your own community.
- Once again, not a meme. Content aggregation. I’d prefer it if you didn’t liken me to Elon musk or call my efforts bullshit. As a reminder; insults and name calling is not allowed. That’s not my rule, it’s lemmys.
Thank you for your input.
They’re not memes, they’re screenshots. Have you heard of content aggregators? It’s a pretty standard thing - and it probably accounts for at least 50% of what you see online.
And "content aggregators" are the bane of most artists and even writer's existence. It takes their hard work, removes all attribution to them, and gives the traffic to some random website that can run a web spider. This is a large chunk of WHY the modern internet is so horrible because the actual content creators basically get screwed over by joke thieves and the like. You don't start thinking something as heinous as NFTs is a good idea until you have consistently seen all of your hard work stolen by others who get more clout/money/traffic for it.
And I am not even going to explain why "a bunch of people like it. I don't see you doing anything" is not an argument and is instead just a logical fallacy.
- Got it. Let me go ask my cousin Jimmy how film production works. He is a pilot in the Air Force!
- Well, one could easily argue that a talking point that continues to almost exclusively get brought up by people arguing in bad faith because Jack Lemon did a mean impression of their savior (also a few politicians in NM who want to make a name for themselves) is "bad faith" but...
- And I am discussing it and saying why this is really shitty for a lot of different reasons. I didn't even really call out "the community" until you felt the need to go at me for... not posting enough memes?
- I'll stop comparing you to elon musk when you stop acting like him. musk is a NOTORIOUS "content aggregator" who never attributes any of his memes or jokes that he steals from anyone who is dumb enough to mention his name online. And you are doing pretty much the exact same thing. Stealing (pretty mediocre and borderline nonsensical... hey, just like hairplugs!) memes from (maybe right wing... Another comparison to Emerald Apartheid!) content creators and presenting them as your own to build up your own community (... Okay, I want to make the joke but that would be me implying he is trying to build up twitter which I just can't).
So yeah... if you don't want to be compared to a notorious content thief like musk... maybe don't do it yourself? Or just add a rule to the side board saying "no comparing the mods to elon musk. Also, I am very funny 💩 ".
As for "Ugh, why are you here then": I am here because I see the opportunity for Lemmy to be something better than reddit. Rather than just stealing all the shitty, stupid, and often times manipulative content from Reddit, let's make our own that is actually good. Or, demonstrate that it is possible to drop a citation. There is probably a nitter equivalent for reddit.
Because if the goal is just to steal and repost everything from Reddit for clout? Why bother making a new board at all?
You’re being aggressive, argumentative and condescending. It’s uncalled for and unwelcome.
I started to reply to each point before I realised it’s futile, and frankly it’s not what I want to do with my Friday night.
I think it’s best if you leave the community.
Oooh. Inability to actually respond to any points other than vague comments on how you feel attacked.
What billionaire with hairplugs and a breeding fetish does that remind me of?
Heh. Have you considered "building up the community" by just stealing some of musk's stolen material? Because that would at least be funny
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Remember when memes didn't have watermarks and didn't require attribution? They were just out there for lols with no concern for building followers or engagement. It really wasn't that long ago.
I get it, but it still feels weird to me that literally everything on the internet has monetary motivation
Edit: I more or less agree with your other points
It isn't even about monetary attribution. It is just about not stealing someone's joke.
In fact, monetizing memes is probably not something that works out well for the most part. But giving people credit for making a good joke is just common courtesy. And, in the case of people like musk, it is actively stealing the work of others to build up your own "brand"
Can you explain the link between The Crow and John Wick? I've not heard this one.
Chad Staheleski trained at the same gym as Brandon and stood in for him after he died (and the fact that this is not widely discussed is one of the reasons Stahelski is considered to be "a real one" as it were). He would go on to double for Keanu in The Matrix and the rest is history.
He goes into some of this on his interview with Scott Adkins. I still don't know how I feel about The Crow being salvaged after the death of Brandon Lee but, for all the problems with that film, I have never heard a single negative thing said about Stahelski and he has been nothing but respectful in the years since.