Points for consideration, there were a handful of ships full of Jews during WW2 seeking asylum. It's widely believed that world leaders knew of or suspected that the Holocaust was murdering Jews around the time those boats were rejected for asylum.
Additionally, even after people knew the details of the Holocaust people still didn't really like Jews.
how would you account for those points?
also thank you for engaging with me on this. I'm genuinely enjoying our conversation!
Everything you're saying really just supports the fact that the nations of the time were handling the situation in a wildly immoral way, and the creation of Israel as an ethnostate was part and parcel of that immorality, and remains highly consequential to this date.
There's no point asking me as an individual how I would personally have solved the crisis if I could travel back in time, because one person can't unilaterally force a nation to do anything without being a dictator, and people don't become dictators without doing horrible things.
What matters is recognizing that the Israel of today came to exist out of two factors:
Wealthy and influential Zionists wanted to claim Palestinian land by any means possible to further enrich themselves.
Other nations wanted somewhere to send as many Jewish people as possible because they were antisemitic and didn't like refugees.
Now we're stuck dealing with the consequences of our idiot racist ancestors. Let's just try our best to not be overtly idiotic or racist ourselves (racist, for example, by turning a blind eye to the genocide happening to Palestinians, as if they're not even human beings, or idiotic by thinking that there's any justification for Israel's insanely disproportionate use of force).
Just to be clear, I'm not accusing you specifically of being racist or idiotic, I'm just describing my general position on things.
It won't solve the problems of today but sometimes it can be interesting to see what people of today think for problems and crisises of yesterday. I was in model UN and that was a fairly frequent conference idea.
I also enjoy talking to people because it's easy for us to say "that's a colonialist action" and even though it's true the question becomes (for me) 'alright how could we have done better' and discussing that thought experiment
and I appreciate the call-out, I definitely didn't assume you were calling me one.
Maybe for a better question we ask "what could I have done as Winston Churchill or (I think it was) Truman." While they were singular people they did give the diplomats their marching orders when it came to the peace resolutions.
"what could I have done as Winston Churchill or (I think it was) Truman."
These people were influential but did not have unilateral power. In their position I would have tried to establish refuge for Jewish people and grant them protective status. Then because of how racist and dumb society was, I would have lost my political position and my influence.
They won't divide it because Canada has always been Zionist and fascist. Not only did Canada permit an actual fascist Nazi to live in peace for 70 years. They then gave him honors and applause on their capital hill. Canada has abstained from any UN votes on the Israel - Palestine genocide. It doesn't get much more clear than that.