GOP party convention says quiet part out loud: "We do not want to be a democracy.”
GOP party convention says quiet part out loud: "We do not want to be a democracy.”
Some Republicans have been defensive that the party has a strong anti-democratic bent. But the state GOP convention embraced it, writes columnist Danny Westneat.
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It was that way from the start, by design.
That's not a unique quote either, it's typical of the Founders' thoughts.
The most famous rapping fascist Alexander Hamilton was openly anti democratic as well.
He also came from a family of slave-traders in the caribbean, married into another one with huge plantations, and himself owned slaves.
Preach!
Give therefore to the first class a distinct, permanent share in the government. They will check the unsteadiness of the second, and as they cannot receive any advantage by a change, they therefore will ever maintain good government
LMFAO...
Naive naive founding morons...
The problem is that the words are imperfect and people use democracy to mean direct democracy, but it also means any form of government where the ultimate power lies in the hands of the people. So our republic, any way you cut it, it still a form of democracy. Hell we even have some elements of a direct democracy.
And what is even more annoying is that Republicans will argue that this is why we don't directly elected the POTUS, because we are a republic...but we could directly elect the POTUS and we would still be a democracy.
it also means any form of government where the ultimate power lies in the hands of the people.
I don't see anything here that grants ultimate power to the people.
Elections.
Elections where you pick between 2 parties that represent their wealthy Capitalist donors is "power to the people?"
Yes, because we could elect whoever we want. The way the system is set up has some faults that have it tend towards a two party system, and this should change, but ultimately the outcome is the result of the way we vote.
Why is third party voting frowned upon then, if third party policies are more popular among the public?
What does this have to do with the US being a democracy? Sounds like your whole interaction here is in bad faith.
Because the power structure is set up in a manner that best represents those who donate the most to the largest political parties, and if people voted for what they actually wanted, this spoils the vote.
US democracy is a sham, both the Democrats and Republicans serve their wealthy donors, and field candidates are dedicated to that front.
You're arguing that the system isn't perfect, not that it isn't a democracy. Not interested in being dragged off point by someone not arguing in good faith.
I'm arguing that it doesn't represent the will of the people, and isn't very democratic at all. I didn't say "US Elections don't exist."
It's definitely telling that you repeatedly state that I am not arguing in good faith, rather than meaningfully engage with the points I have made.
Could you explain how I am, in your view, acting in bad-faith? What constitutes that claim?
It says "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof"
There's nothing in it comparable to "the people of Nigeria from whom government through this Constitution derives all its powers and authority".
The Constitution is in some ways is a sequel to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed". While the Declaration of Independence is not a legally binding document, it is widely upheld as a sort of "vision statement" for US government and governance
good point yeah
Cherry picking. You're citing the part about how elections are run.