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USA’s presidents have all been awful humans
USA’s presidents have all been awful humans
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You want to find me a head of state that wasn't or isn't?
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Perfection is the enemy of good.
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Perhaps, and I didn't get a philosophy degree so take this with a grain of salt, but slavery and child rape seem to be even greater enemies of good.
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Ok, historically some political leaders felt that raping all brides before their wedding night was a great honor bestowed upon the family. Egyptian royalty had slaves, family members and pets murdered or buried alive with them when they died.
Human history is full of it's leaders doing shitty and horrendous things.. We can either sit here and microanalyze whatever country or set of leaders we want to single out or just recognize that historically everybody in power was a piece of shit, and look for ways to do better and make our leaders do better.
Does anyone here think that the United States and the world is better off with Donald Trump in power as opposed to Kamala Harris? If your answer to that question is " but Kamala supported Israel too hard".... Then my original comment about perfection and goodness is for you.
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Lol, omfg, Lemmy is nuts sometimes.
No, I dont think we are better off with the known child rapist Donald Trump. I actually also think it's quite unlikely that Kamala has raped children or owned slaves.
But I do stand by my claim that child rape and slavery are worse enemies of good than "perfection". And if your response to that is "child rape is still a relative concept", then I'm sorry to say you can piss up a rope.
I voted for harm reduction like a sensible person, now can I please be offended over children getting raped or do I need to pass another purity test?
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Perfection is the enemy of the good. I don't know why you are obsessed with child rape.....
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Well, it was literally mentioned in the post. Unlike... Kamala and Israel.
And you responded to my comment regarding it with random facts trying to soften how terrible it is, historically speaking.
So if we are talking obsessive behavior... Not sure it's mine that qualifies.
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My comment was responding to another comment (which referred to heads of state). I wasn't responding to the original post. You then responded to my comment which was a sub comment to the post that I guess you really wanted to respond to....Try to keep up.
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And in what way are America's presidents unique in these atrocities among world leaders of their era? Other than "America Bad" is trendy right now?
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They do genocide and colonialism and slavery and they are settlers
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Don't recall saying that child rape or slavery are unique to anyone, just that they are a worse affront to "good" than "perfection". I'm against them in all their manifestations. Don't really care who specifically tbh.
But I'd also go so far as to say that just because "America bad" is trendy, doesn't mean these child raping slavers are being unfairly targeted. Cuz you know, they did have slaves and diddled kids.
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And we're paying special attention to American slave owning child diddlers who have been dead for 200 years and not British or Canadian or French or German or Russian slave owning child diddlers who have been dead for 200 years because...?
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Because settlers are always more evil
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We as in me? Didn't think I was. Even specified that I didn't care about the specific "who".
We as in the royal we? I reckon because the post was making a point about not romanticizing past presidents in the face of our current super awful kiddy diddler and you took offense to the specificity?
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OP is probably an American, it's that simple.
Be the change you want to see. Post memes about past politicians from other countries. I will upvote them.
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