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No. Rejection of extremism does not imply acceptance of some other form of extremism.
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That's because non-extremists usually aren't particularly anti-communist. And why would they be? On paper, communism is a splendid idea. Doesn't seem to work very well in practice, but that doesn't make the idea bad…unlike fascism, which is bad even on paper.
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Communism worked great in practice, just look at places like Burkina Faso under Sankara, Cuba flourished when the colonizers got kicked out, USSR and China went from semi-feudal societies to world powers in a couple of decades, etc.
Just like a western imperialist, you point at how powerful and wealthy the ruling elites of your favorite regime are and completely gloss over the suffering they cause their people.
China is a nation of slaves, locked into factories fitted with suicide nets as though they were criminals. Russia's populace is being fed to a meat grinder solely because their president craves power and conquest. And that's the example you'd have the rest of humanity emulate? Here in America, even our homeless live in better conditions than that!
You're no better than those you hate—you're hardly even different from them, let alone better—and that is why no one wants to join you in the revolution you desire.
On the other hand, do you believe capitalism works well in practice?
Of course not. But you certainly aren't offering a better alternative. I might be down for an honest communism-ish economy—mandatory employee ownership of businesses, redistribution of wealth via wealth tax, that sort of thing—but I'm sure not buying what you're selling.
Edit: I would also like to add that the ultimate communism—an economy in which money does not exist and is not necessary, that is, a post-scarcity economy—is currently impossible, and requires not a political revolution but a technological one. I can only hope our high-tech civilization survives long enough to achieve it…
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Russia’s populace is being fed to a meat grinder solely because their president craves power and conquest
that's not any kind of own. Russia is a capitalist country, you're literally arguing against capitalism and then claiming that you've proved that capitalism is better than communism despite acknowledging that a capitalist country is feeding its populace into a meat grinder
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Anarchy worked great in practice, until Franco killed it.
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well, maybe I read you wrong then.
I completely agree that imperialistic capitalism is cancer - and USA and China are the current front runners...
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China is an Imperialist states which defined its current borders by violence. Xinjiang and Tibet did not voluntarily federate with the Chinese State. They were subjugated by force.
China is best compared to Russia.
And the century of humiliation is long gone.
And lest we forget, the most recent Imperialism to face China was Asian. And not Western.
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Anarchy worked great in practice, until Franco killed it.
It is worth mentioning that this means it did not work in practice because it was killed! Yes, the same can be said of ML projects like Burkina Faso that were toppled and thereby had very little they were able to pass on in the long term except lessons (Sankara was incredible and his band mate who betrayed him was a bastard). Communes are great when you don't have capitalist-aligned states who want to destroy you, but currently the state of the world is one where capitalist encirclement is an inevitability.
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Rejection of so-called extremism is such an enlightened centrist take, people are suffering due to the West and you would rather do nothing?
People of color have agency, and blaming still "The West" for all suffering in - say - China and Vietnam is initializing, and a true example of orientalism.
Of course the West contributes especially by economic exploitation, but in particular China is hardly exploited by the West anymore. Nor is it about to suffer any further intervention from Western powers.
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non-extremists usually aren’t particularly anti-communist
just be open about it and say you want more anti-communist fascists if you're going to go about defending how riddled with fascism these anti-communist spaces are
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You really do think, that anyone who does not like communism is a fascist, huh?
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They probably don't, know. Authoritarian Communists often have the same sort of incentives as Fascists proper, namely to say and do whatever works with no regard for the truth.
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On what paper? What communist books have you read?
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"Extremism" is a term that relieves its user of making any value judgments on the political questions at hand. A thought-terminating cliché that shovels unearned acceptance on the status quo and an unearned rejection of everything else.
A particularly funny part of it is that the early architects of thst status quo would hsve counted as extremists.
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"I don't think ethnic purges are justified under any circumstance"
"YOU ARE JUST LIKE THE NAZIS"
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Maybe turn on your brain, sweaty. As far i can see, fox news watchers LOVE genocidal regimes.
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