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But according to the comment I replied to, she wouldn't be "better", she would be the same. That's my question, which I don't get how that's bad faith. If she's "the most left wing since FDR", but Biden is already that, in what way is that an argument for her? What point is the comment making? You're not explaining anything.
You’re the only one saying she would be the same.
I didn't say anything. I asked for clarification on liberals' general sentiments.
Are these liberals in the room with you now?
Warren being better than Biden and Biden (or Warren) being the most left-wing president since FDR are not mutually exclusive.
Warren is left of Biden and, if you’re left-leaning, that is better AND the most left since FDR.
I think I'm mostly lost on what dumbass thinks Biden is left of FDR.
Edit: oh most left wing SINCE. I need more coffee. Seeing as we've had basically no actual left wing presidents, still not a difficult feat. lol
She would be better and more to the left than Biden. And I consider myself a part of the left. Fred Hampton wasn’t killed because he was a leftist, he was killed because he was a big tent leftist.
My point is the perfect candidate doesn’t exist and we should fight for the progress we can get with politicians that can win in the current deeply flawed system we are forced to operate in.
Fred Hampton was killed because he was a communist, not a "leftist". His FBI file, the statements from the police, and the statements from officials involved all explicitly blame his communist sentiment and work with communist orgs for the police state's...attention...on him. He didn't advocate for a liberal national party. Do not insult him by misrepresenting him or his death.
But okay. That phrase just doesn't separate her from Biden when that's what the tweet is about.
Thank you for proving my point by partitioning communists from the left. Sometimes I feel like I’m arguing metal subgenres. I just want everyone who isn’t a fascist or an enabler to band together so we don’t get a repeat the last century.
American liberals are right wing is the point. So Hampton is correctly separated from the American left.
His rainbow coalition comprised of a lot of different groups with differing left wing viewpoints. I know Liz is still only left by American standards, but I still think she’s preferable to Biden which mainly what I’m trying to say.
That's fine. Perhaps we can be gracious to those who are further left than we are accustomed to conversing with, in the spirit of Chairbrother Fred? I also am working on that, I'd be honored if others would join me.