The Conservatives are debating their future - but the path back to victory is not straightforward.
This gave me a big belly laugh:
Another Conservative said: “The answer is we need to find a way to appeal to voters we lost to all parties. I don’t know how you do that on policy, but Keir Starmer showed you can do it by looking competent and serious. But I don’t know if any of the candidates we have at the moment can do that.”