YSK: Your Lemmy activities (e.g. downvotes) are far from private
YSK: Your Lemmy activities (e.g. downvotes) are far from private
Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...
What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.
Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.
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The things I upvote and downvote are in line with my personal values and I am not ashamed of that. I have no issues with anyone knowing my reaction to a post. On Discord anyone can see who leaves reactions on a message. Same with Facebook. It will show you who added what reaction.
The things I upvote and downvote are in line with my personal values and I am not ashamed of that.
Sounds an awfull lot like I have nothing to hide therefore I don't need privacy. The goal of crypto etc is to design protocols that allow you not having to trust anyone. I don't want to trust anyone, and I don't.
Bit crypto does that by publicly recording all transactions on the Blockchain, this is kinda the same thing in that it'll not just about being told 'in total sixteen people agree' and having to belive spez that he hasn't just invented the number, it's seeing who voted and how.
You can of course have more than one account and keep your identity private similar to crypto where your transactions are public but the owner of the walker can be private
No, I keep some things private. But some things, like reactions and upvotes, are just as public to me as the posts I make is my point. It just isn't a concern for me personally.
it isn't about you, it's a security risk and a massive vulnerability leaving servers open to data collection for data they shouldn't be collecting.
Not everybody shares the same habits.
Here's a scenario... Some admins are using data to build correlations between accounts. Linking main account to alternates. So far that I've seen the purpose has been to identify bot activity. A good thing.
The same analysis could also be used to build correlation between a main account that's hard right leaning and an alt-account that may be sympathetic to left-leaning or progressive topics, such as LGBTQ+ rights. Not so much a good thing.
I think it's fair to say that many people will not consider the fact that, literally, anybody in the world can have access to much of this data. It's not limited to your two or three instance administrators.
I do not believe upvotes and down votes are enough information to reveal the identity of anyone. If this was truly such a risk, where has the concern for this been on Facebook, where you can see who leaves reactions by name. Or Discord where every account that clicks a reaction is available?
Here that info is not available to the public at large. On Facebook it's available to anyone who sees a post. Why haven't security voices been pressuring Facebook to not track social reactions if it's so dangerous?
This is a feature of social media for the most part. What I write as posts and comments is available to everyone as is vastly more useful info for someone to collect.
I don't agree that there's been no pushback with regards to Facebook. Plenty of privacy advocates dissuade people from using it at all.
The lack of anonymity with regards to the upvote/downvote thing is just one example of things that might not be obvious to the typical user. Another would be consideration for people who moved away from Reddit so they would "stop slurping up my data". Thing is, the way the Fediverse works, pretty much anybody in the world can slurp up a much of the same data.
I upvoted, but shhhhhh, I don't want anyone to know what I do
You want your employer to know that you're playing karma games when you're on the clock? They are time stamped.
The public-ness of that data is sketch to me, but also cannot imagine using this platform in any way that could be linked to my real life.
Jokes on you. My employer knows I only work 4 hours of my 8 hour shift
But does he know that you actually only work 2 hours out of you 4 hour work and 8 hour shift?
Nope!
I don't understand the concern over it really. I mean you are on social media. My comments are much more telling than my up and down votes lol. I think this general sense of "I want to be social but I don't want anyone knowing it's me" is an interesting trend though.
It was sarcasm.
I forgot the /s