Lemmy.ca's Main Community @lemmy.ca Shadow @lemmy.ca 3 mo. ago

Hexbear - Refederation?

Recently I was asked if we'd be willing to reconsider federation with Hexbear, followed by CARCOSA reaching out to me to see if it was something we'd be open to.

They made a post asking if their community was interested in refederating with us, similarly I'd like the opinion of our local users.

Why refederate?

Hexbear has a decent number of sizable active communities:

These all seem fairly well moderated, giving us access to more diverse posts and viewpoints. A lot of our feed right now is dominated by US centric communities, and it'd be nice to get some more variety.

Why not?

They love trolling and I don't expect them to follow our rules when commenting (primarily "be civil").

Just looking at their thread about us, there's a significant number of immature replies slandering us / Canada. I'm not confident their users will engage in actual discussion in our threads, rather than just showing up to throw out insults and memes.

We can try to handle this by banning users / blocking specific communities, but that's going to increase moderation workload for both admins and mods. Hexbear is self admittedly quick to ban users on their side, but they also don't mind ban evasion - not ideal for us.

So what's next?

This is where we solicit your opinions, how does our community feel?

Edit: Well, it looks like the community is overwhelmingly against refederation. Decision made, thanks everyone for your feedback!

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While I don't like that instance and block most communities from there as I see them, as an end user, I think it's fair to refederate and instead let users individually block Hexbear users, communities and perhaps even the whole instance if they see fit. My worry, however, is if moderation here on this side of the two instances wouldn't get too clogged.
- Two main issues with this approach, in my opinion:
  
  Instance blocking does not block comments. If multiple Hexbear users decides to harass you, you will keep seeing their replies until you manage to block every user to blame. I don't want to go through this.
  
  Every new user to lemmy.ca will have to put up with the sea of bad-faith Hexbear users until they also go through this multi-phase blocking process, which is a terrible onboarding experience.
  
  While these aren't huge issues if Hexbear plays nice, I don't trust that to be the case. From my experience of the last time I just have to assume it will be more harassment and more ASCII/emote spam and do not wish for our instance to be polluted by that.
  
  It's not a matter of if multiple Hexbear users will decide to harass you, it's a matter of when. They start threads to summon other Hexbear users to "dunk on" people they disagree with.

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