3mo ago

Question for something I’m writing: would it be possible for Substack to make substack Notes (its twitter like feature within the Substack app) part of the fediverse?

I’m wondering if this is something that’s technically possible or not and I don’t know enough about how the fediverse operates to know if it would be feasible. #fediverse

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@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social probably, but as they’re a nazi-accepting platform, they’d probably get defederated by a whole lot of servers rather fast, so there might not be much of a point.
- @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social Ghost also accepts nazis, I realize they’re not part of the fediverse but I struggle to find a single publishing tool that doesn’t allow allow reprehensible people to publish.
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social feels funny to respond very narrowly here but: Ghost is currently adding ActivityPub support so is kind of prototyping being part of the fediverse https://activitypub.ghost.org/
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social check out buttondown. a follower kindly provided this link to their ToS when I asked: https://mastodon.social/@jandi/113376268019802243
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social do they? I hadn’t seen anything about that yet.
  
  @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social they do! They have less moderation than Substack but it was never a viral headline. I’m not defending it or saying “well this platform is also bad so it’s ok for Substack to do xyz” just saying it’s a broader systemic issue with these email newsletter platforms and publishing tools that don’t want to get into the content moderation business
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social Taylor, I agree with you on this one. I'd like the finger-pointing to cool down a little.
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social Taylor, I've seen you share this claim across multiple platforms and I'm honestly not sure where it's coming from.
  As I've mentioned each time someone tags me, I'm happy to chat with you directly about how Ghost works and any of these issues if that would be helpful.
  
  @johnonolan@mastodon.xyz @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social hi!! Omg I have never seen your replies I am sorry, I would have definitely responded!! I would love to chat, and not trying to hate on ghost btw. As I understand Quilette is on Ghost and you guys don’t do content moderation. But I wasn’t trying to hate on anyone and I just think that a lot of these convos about publishing tools are derailed by what ppl read in headlines. I’m on taylor@usermag.co if u ever have a few min to chat I’d love to connect 🙏
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @johnonolan@mastodon.xyz I get where you are coming from, however it still makes a difference if Ghost is hosting them, I.e. they are using Ghost Pro, or if they self-host it, which they can as it is open source. Also, even using Ghost Pro you are not in a closed network like Substack. Every Ghost publication is more like a single instance, so content moderation is harder. Substack still is a hellhole, especially after that Decoder interview it is clear what kind of hellhole it is.
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social no problem :) I’ll drop you an email
  
  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social CC: @johnonolan@mastodon.xyz
  
  @taylorlorenz @jvnknvlgl there will of course be some nuances with Ghost being an open source product, but as far as I can tell, this claim is at least misleading as far a it goes for their hosted product.

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