UK Poll:Belief that Britain was right to vote to leave The EU falls to new low.
UK Poll:Belief that Britain was right to vote to leave The EU falls to new low.
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The graph gap between 0 and 30 irritates me. The 50 60 looks so high up.
I would have preferred 20 to 80 or 20 to 60 or 0 to 100.
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A modest proposal: If a majority of 51,89% for and 48,11% against was enough to push through with Brexit, maybe 55% vs. 30% should also be a clear votum to start talking about a new EU membership.
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Think it was wrong today leave is different to think they should return
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Your mistake: modesty.
The fuckers pushing Brexit were extremely immodest liars.
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...maybe the EU citizens should be asked first IF they want the brits to come back in the first place?
and if they do - under what conditions. Don't forget the fact the Brits really have burned-down the bridges and threw every little bit of bullshit at the EU and several of the coutries, including their leaders. So - if they want to come back, they should think about a way to redeem themselves.
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It's not about redemption or something like that. EU membership is a process and open to all european countries. If UK wants to join again, we don't need an apology from the population.
(and, by the way: 2016 was 9 years ago. With a life expectancy of 78 years and a voting age of 18 a bigger part of those who voted for Brexit have already died. No one under 27 was even able to vote. The migrant population also had no vote here)
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We do, but we need to set an example. You can't have it look like some club you can just enter and exit just like that. You have got to discourage other countries from trying to leave. Essentially the UK has to come crawling back on their knees and take a bad deal that gets better for them year after year or smth.
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Its highly unlikely the UK will rejoin any time soon. The requirements for rejoining are much higher than those for leaving.
Rejoining would mean signing up for the Euro, and the common agricultural policy with no rebates - both those things would extremely difficult to get people to vote for here.
And I have to be honest - I did not want to leave the EU but I would not vote to rejoin. Regretting something is not the same as being for the reverse.
Brexit has not been as bad as I thought it would be. I look at the EU and the continued lack of reform and its democratic deficit and I'm kinda glad thats no longer my problem. I wish the EU all the best, but it needs to become more accountable to voters and it needs to find a way to deal with states like Hungary. Plus the rise of far right parties like AFD in Germany and the real risk Le Pen may be the next president of France honestly makes me feel safer out of the EU. How would the EU deal with far right parties in actual power? The democratic checks and balances seem so weak.
I wish the EU the best of luck with these problems. The UK has its own national problems to focus on and I feel like thats finally happening as politicians are no longer obsessing over the EU.
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The problem isn’t just re-joining the eu. New contracts would be formed that would be far less advantageous for Britain than they previously had. Which would start this whole circus again :(
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Still better than being alone
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I honestly think that's very wrong and one of the last brexiteer arguments that still seems to be believed by reasonable people.
Under the old terms, the UK was one of the largest net contributors to the EU. And also one of the countries absorbing the most immigrants. In fact, the exemptions they got were all quite reasonable.
Without the exemptions, the UK would have been an even bigger net contributor and would have had even more immigrants.
Just from pure self-interest, the EU would be foolish to demand more than the old terms. In fact, with smart negotiating, I am sure the UK could get even more exemptions than they used to have.
And we, the EU, know this. The war in Ukraine is expensive af. The UK is already helping above and beyond what we could expect from them. The EU economy isn't doing all too great either.
The mutual benefits of the UK rejoining will be billions if not trillions of extra economic output on both sides. It would be billions extra budget for the EU.
Why would we drive a hard bargain to squeeze out the Brits?
Friendly terms that make the British politicians look good and that make the UK public feel like winners and which provide direct short term economic benefits are the way to do it.
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Nah, it means the UK wouldn't rejoin. Voters wouldn't vote for joining the EU if that meant the Euro and the common agricultural policy and so on. The question will not even be asked for a generation as its so toxic and divisve.
The EU needs to stop worrying about the UK and focus on its own problems. If i were still an EU citizen I'd be far more bothered by the behaviour of Hungary, the rise of the AFD in Germany and the chances of Le Pen being French president. The EU doesn't seem well equipped for those problems. The UK is not the EUs problem.
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Let's just switch UK with Hungary.
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Or, let's punch Orban in the face and have both Hungary and UK as members.
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Hindsight is 20/20.
However in this case, it was furiously obvious that this was gonna happen even before the vote. All you needed was to inform yourself and think a little bit.
And even if you didn't, James Acaster spelled out the simplest, most obvious and most sensible argument against Brexit ever said.
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If tea wouldn't convince the British, nothing would
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To be fair, UK couldn’t sit on the fence forever and voters probably didn’t want to commit to the EU either.
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Source?
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YouGov. It's right there in the picture.
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Duh. A direct link to the source, dude.
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As a political topic Brexit is becoming less and less relevant.
While people are regretting leaving, there is definitely not a clamouring to rejoin. The EU is barely discussed by politicians.
Rejoining would be without the opt outs the UK had so an actual debate on rejoining probably wouldn't get enough support to rejoin. It would just be a toxic rerun of the brexit debate.
I dont see this being a political topic again for at least 10 years unless something dramatically changes. And if Le Pen becomes president of France, or AFD gain a share of power in Germany joining the EU may become even more politically toxic.
I wanted to remain, and I regret leaving but leaving has not been as disaterous as expected. Its not been good either but we can live with it.
And the best effect ironically is politicans are not incessantly fighting about the EU. I'm glad they are focusing on other issues now; the years around and after the brexit referendum were horrendous and factional. At least now the politicians are focused on the UKs actual issues such as public service and the economy.
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