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How are you making your machine? Does it literally create something from nothing? Why would what it creates have any value if it can be infinitely easily produced, even if important? If it obeys the laws of physics, why would you be able to compete with large, mass scale industry as a single person?
Your question largely doesn't make any sense.
- Please elaborate on what you mean, your thought experiment made no sense. And yes, I'm a Communist, correct.
  
  Seems more like a dodge for you to avoid making an argument, but you do you. Don't know what you mean by claiming I'm not a Communist, either, who counts as a Communist in your eyes?
  
  You practice communism? You subsist from a communist system solely?
  
  Considering Communism as a Mode of Production refers to a relatively far-future, fully publicly owned global economy, humanity hasn't reached Communism and thus by your definition nobody has ever been a Communist. This, of course, isn't true, a Communist is someone who generally follows Communist ideology and wishes to bring about Communism.
  This is just a non-sequitor no true Scotsman, and seems to be deflection.
  
  Call it a deflection if you want, I call it being correct.
  
  Would you rather me identify as Marxist-Leninist? That's the specific type of Communist I am.
  Now that we have presumably gotten through that part, I'm entirely down to talk about whatever it is your machine example is supposed to prove, if you're willing to elaborate more on what your hypothetical is for.
  
  Bravo on showing such respectful and good-natured civility towards someone who is undoubtedly a troll. I applaud your restraint. However, I think you entertained their obvious bad faith arguing for far too long. It's quite clear that they are hostile towards communism and are being deliberately combative and insulting to try and get a reaction out of someone. Unfortunately, as the Reddit floodgates begin to burst, I am sure many more trolls and hostile reactionaries whilr be flooding Lemmy for the forseeable future. Stay strong, comrade <3
  
  Thanks! And for what it's worth, I'm 100% aware, they end up serving as a great springboard for other onlookers, who may change their mind. I've had people DM me saying as such, which is why I keep doing it. Thanks though, comrade!
  
  We both know if my machine has any value, it'd be taken away from me. That's really all I need to know.
  
  I don't really agree with that. For it to have Value, it would need to be socially necessary, and fulfill a role not already better filled by other machines.
  Where are you getting the materials? What time are we talking about, early Socialism, late Communisn, somewhere in between? The answer would change depending on the level of development of the productive forces.
  
  Exactly the type of reply I'd expect.
  
  You dirty Commie.
  you aren’t a communist
  Make up your mind, boomer.
  
  How was saying you arent a communist pro-?

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