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27:38 | APR 14 2025 | Bad Faith

Huge Anti-Trump Protests EXCLUDE Gaza and Go PRO-NATO (w/ Code Pink)

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249292

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National Co-Director of feminist anti-war group Code Pink joins Bad Faith to discuss Tom Cotton's attacks on Code Pink and Senator Jim Banks' allegation that Code Pink is in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. In the wake of huge protests on April 5th and since October 7th, establishment politicians have been cracking down on protests. What is the future of protests? Are they effective, or tools for the managed release of public discontent? Does Code Pink have insights and/or strategies to maximize this moment?

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The video discusses the current state of protest movements in the US, particularly focusing on anti-war activism, the shift in public opinion regarding Israel, and the challenges faced by organizations like Code Pink. It also addresses accusations against Code Pink of being funded by foreign entities and the broader implications for activism and political discourse.

Key Points:

  • Code Pink's Protest Strategy: Code Pink focuses on actions that educate and inspire people to take action against war and in favor of peace, disrupting events to expose politicians' stances.
  • Shifting Public Opinion on Israel: A recent poll shows a majority of US adults now have an unfavorable view of Israel, with significant shifts among Democrats and young Republicans.
  • Accusations Against Code Pink: Code Pink is facing accusations of being funded by the Chinese Communist Party, which they vehemently deny. They are filing an ethics complaint against Senator Tom Cotton for spreading these lies.
  • Repression and Fear-Mongering: There's a concern that the establishment is cracking down on dissent, using tactics like deportation threats and spreading misinformation to create fear and discourage activism.
  • The "Miss Rachel" Controversy: The video touches on the controversy surrounding "Miss Rachel," a children's programmer accused of anti-Semitism for expressing concern for Palestinian children.
  • Foreign Influence and Hypocrisy: The discussion highlights the hypocrisy of accusing anti-war groups of being funded by foreign entities while ignoring the significant Israeli funding of various causes and political campaigns in the US.
  • Need for Organized Action: The speakers emphasize the importance of organizing people into movements and providing political education to empower them to take more concrete actions beyond protests.
  • DHS Screening for Anti-Semitism: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is going to begin screening aliens' social media activity for anti-semitism.

Highlights:

  • Code Pink's representative details the organization's strategy for deciding on protest actions, emphasizing education and inspiration.
  • The discussion of the poll revealing a significant shift in public opinion against Israel.
  • The detailed explanation of the accusations against Code Pink and their response.
  • The analysis of the "Miss Rachel" controversy and the broader implications for free speech and criticism of Israel.
  • The emphasis on the need for organized action and political education to translate public sentiment into meaningful change.

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  • I thought you wanted a substantive discussion? If you wanted to just say “watch the video” then I didn’t need to type all of that.

    We can't have a substantive discussion if you don't know what they discussed and what views National Co-Director of Code Pink Briahna expressed.

    Ah, you read the transcripts!

    open propaganda

    https://medium.com/muros-invisibles/code-pink-and-the-politics-of-privilege-475234e4490f

    You label the video as open propaganda while posting a propaganda smear piece against Code Pink. The article does not speak to or question anyone from the organization; they just continue to spew government and US military talking points.

    sending any weapons to Ukraine

    pro-China

    I do feel like their solutions are kind of lackluster

    This just seems kind of laughable

    aligned perfectly with Russia

    The populace in the United States is for peace, and they want a ceasefire in Gaza and in Ukraine.

    There is a reason why they did not vote for a continuation of Biden/Harris, due to the status quo of funding and arming foreign countries.

    Trump's pseudo-populist views of wanting to end the wars and stopping the funding of foreign nations are what the people were looking for.

    Code Pink is a reaction to the populist views of the people in the United States.

    Which is why they continue to confront so many politicians and question them on their actions of siding with foreign nations instead of helping the people in the United States.

    Confronting these politicians helps them show what these politicians continue to vote for, the status quo, educating and inspiring people to join in on the movement; they want to build a working-class movement, since the majority of the populace is against war and for peace and a ceasefire.

    • I feel like we're operating on two separate wavelengths here.

      I think what I think because I looked at stuff. I didn't get it from Tom Cotton or the State Department. A lot of your criticism of what I think boils down to... well, actually, you're not really dealing very much directly with what I said. You're just using the opportunity to repeat a bunch of stuff you wanted to say. When you do deal with what I said, it's very cursory, just kind of discarding it all airily.

      I actually read up what Code Pink had to say in detail, on their web site and in the transcript, and then I brought up parts of it that I thought were wrong and touched a little bit on why and how I take their stuff. Actually I don't think it's really "wrong" entirely, like I said there are big, big pieces that I agree with. You can disagree with me on any of the stuff I do take issue with, if you want. But there has to be a reason. Not just "propaganda smear piece" "Tom Cotton" and so on.

      IDK. I feel like you think information has to be given from above, either from the State Department or from Code Pink, and it has to be one or the other. I generally check stuff for myself and dig into it a little bit. I asked you a bunch of questions, genuinely because I wanted to know what you thought, and it seems like you're not comfortable with that, you just want to repeat and bash.

      Good luck with it, I guess, I think I got out of this about the reaction I had expected to get out of it.

      • I feel like we’re operating on two separate wavelengths here.

        Yes, sorry.

        I was trying to keep the discussion focused on what was mentioned in the interview while answering your questions.

        I try to keep it in simple terms.

        Many of the working class are struggling, and groups like Code Pink are just one group that tries to show what the majority of people feel.

        Which is questioning the politicians on their voting record and trying to stop the funding of foreign military budgets that cause mass slaughter.

        These views are not only brought out due to being brainwashed or bought by Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, Code Pink, and other boogeymen.

        We just came to the same conclusion: that these forever wars are not helping the everyday person in the United States; in fact, they do the opposite.

        AIPAC and Israel are not helping the United States; they are just buying our politicians and getting us to fight their wars in the Middle East.

        Then AIPAC and Israel, and their paid politicians, smear (example of being labeled an antisemite; the video discusses this) anyone who is not pro-war and for their campaign of slaughtering civilians.

        New polling shows that the majority of people now see Israel in a negative light, especially those between the ages of 18 and 49.^[[1] Glenn Greenwald Commentary: Censorship and New Israel Polling | https://lemmy.world/post/28280813]

        Again, the majority of people want peace and ceasefires in Gaza and Ukraine, not a continuation of funding foreign governments and their military ambitions.

        Sorry for failing to communicate in the way you wanted to; I will continue to try and learn!

        • Many of the working class are struggling, and groups like Code Pink are just one group that tries to show what the majority of people feel.

          That's not what I see. It seems like they are concerned to a really bizarre degree on what the US does externally and how it impacts foreign powers. Which, fine, but that's not what the majority of suffering people in the US are concerned with.

          Which is questioning the politicians on their voting record and trying to stop the funding of foreign military budgets that cause mass slaughter.

          Linking these two is common Russian propaganda. The two are barely related to each other. If the primary concern was working people, then there are far easier and far more impactful things they could be advocating for that would produce immediate improvements for working people, than for example stopping aid to Ukraine.

          Actually their lack of concern for, for example, endangering social security and medicaid which are currently under existential threat and make ten or a hundred times more difference to ordinary people in the US than does aid to Ukraine.

          Again, the majority of people want peace and ceasefires in Gaza and Ukraine, not a continuation of funding foreign governments and their military ambitions.

          What is Ukraine's military ambition? In your world? What behavior by them would cause Russia to stop killing their citizens and taking their land?

          Sorry for failing to communicate in the way you wanted to; I will continue to try and learn!

          Sounds good. If I just listed out a little handful of direct questions, would you be open to the idea of giving some direct answers to them instead of wandering off on a tangent about how I must have been inspired by Tom Cotton or AIPAC?

          • Foreign policy is tied to the decline of the American Empire.

            Spending trillions of dollars on foreign wars, military budgets, and governments has a direct impact on domestic issues.

            Again, the owner class (oligarchy) funds (bribes) our politicians to support the funding of more forever wars.

            The world is becoming a multipolar world due to the rise of China and other countries. BRICS is an organization that promotes trade within these upcoming countries.

            We must stop being the aggressor and start diplomacy.

            common Russian propaganda.

            Reply:

            1. These views are not only brought out due to being brainwashed or bought by Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, Code Pink, and other boogeymen.
            1. We just came to the same conclusion: that these forever wars are not helping the everyday person in the United States; in fact, they do the opposite.

            What is Ukraine’s military ambition? In your world? What behavior by them would cause Russia to stop killing their citizens and taking their land?

            Ukraine is just, sadly, another pawn of US aggression in trying to contain and regime change Russia.^[[1] https://lemmy.world/post/28318300 | Article: https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/history-of-war-in-ukraine]

            NATO, our European military aggression organization for now—Trump might change that, surprisingly.

            Ukraine could have negotiated a peace treaty, like the one brought up in 2022, until Boris Johnson and the US interfered.

            Now, it will be much harder to get that deal back.

            Sounds good. If I just listed out a little handful of direct questions, would you be open to the idea of giving some direct answers to them instead of wandering off on a tangent about how I must have been inspired by Tom Cotton or AIPAC?,

            It is all connected: our politicians, lobbying (legal bribes, donations), our foreign policy, and our declining American Empire.

            AIPAC and Tom Cotton are pushing for more foreign funding and forever wars.

            direct questions, would you be open to the idea of giving some direct answers

            I can try!

            Edit:

            1. Fixed placement of citation, moved to first Ukraine sentence reply.
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