What things have you noticed triggers downvotes on lemmy?
What things have you noticed triggers downvotes on lemmy?
What things have you noticed triggers downvotes on lemmy?
Anything. People around here downvote memes they personally don't like in meme cookies communities and songs they personally don't like in song sharing communities. It seems like all of the types of people that never followed etiquette on Reddit either came here. And the problem is here is so much smaller, so every downvote is more noticeable and affects things more.
Not having 100% praise for Lemmy and criticizing certain things is a site fire way as well. And if you kick the hornets nest enough in that regard, they'll actually start actively downvoting correct information and upvoting misinformation, as long as it suits the circlejerk.
If you talk about how someone went through your entire profile and downvoted everything, you guessed it, that results in even more people doing the same thing. And now your stupid innocent comments about your life or hopes and dreams in casual conversation are all sitting at minus points and this whole thing feels like a joke and waste of time, while the people who put you there go "who cares? It's just imaginary internet points."
And some of these people that I encountered in this, treating people this way and intentionally ruining the experience and fun for them were regular and familiar faces around here. Those familiar faces that people talk about that are so nice to see around here.
And the fact that there were so many familiar faces makes me wonder about other things too. In the middle of that, I had someone completely baselessly accuse me of being someone else with multiple accounts. Which of course got upvoted by probably the same people that upvoted misinformation on how blocking on Facebook works.
And that left me wondering about the times I've got a DM warning me that a user I've interacted with is a bot or someone with multiple accounts for nefarious reasons. And I normally believe them. But are they going to be doing this to me now? Is this what the power users around here that act like nice people do to anyone that pisses them off?
Edit: I bet this will get downvoted too. Not that I can see it from here.
I hate memes bit i don't downvote. I simply block any meme community i encounter
I'm one of the "imaginary internet points" people. To the point that I've turned off display of votes. I genuinely have no idea how many votes in either direction my posts or comments get … and don't care. Voting systems are stupid; they never work because they're so easily gamed.
My feed is set to New by default, not "Top" or "Controversial". I'll sometimes flip it to "Old" if i want the conversational history. That's about it. It doesn't matter to me what J. Random Internet Person thinks of posts. It matters to me what I think about them.
Voting systems are stupid; they never work because they're so easily gamed.
Yeah this is definitely true. Probably more so for smaller platforms too. Blåhaj doesn't have downvotes enabled and you couldn't even if you wanted to (which I basically never do anyway). But after checking out an instance with them enabled for a while, I'm not all that impressed with how they're used around here. They probably get used like that on Reddit too but you barely notice it there.
And I'm of the camp where yeah, they're imaginary internet points but it's also something built into the platform for a little fun and also to boost quality content. I like upvoting basically everyone that has a decent conversation with me, for example. To me it feels like it's giving just a little extra acknowledgement, like an "I see you". And it's fun. Or should be. I'm a pretty gloomy person but not that cynical. This place is in a weird in between where people want it to be like a '90s forum site but also they want their 'agree' and 'disagree' buttons to mash.
I dunno, I'm over the event itself but I still have the bad taste in my mouth and a different impression of things and certain people now.
For what it's worth, even though you don't care lol, you're one of the people that I always enjoy seeing around here. I actually tried checking out your Pixelfed, couldn't figure out how to view it from my instance, wasn't in the mood to look up FAQs and shit, and haven't been back since lol.
(I should paranthetically mention that I do hit upvotes often for the "extra acknowledgement" thing. I don't see my own upvotes, but that's no reason not to express appreciation to others.)
… also to boost quality content.
The problem is that with voting, "quality" becomes equated with "popular", not with "correct" or "humane" or "important" or …
Yeah, they just turn into 'agree' or 'disagree' buttons. Personally I have fun with it though. Upvoting content around here feels like one of the ways to contribute to this place, so that people who spend their time posting here get the psychological boost to carry on and feel like they're appreciated.
As long as it's part of how things work around here, like it or not, those votes and the direction they go in are going to make people feel like they belong or don't. Especially when they're new. And taking away the grand total doesn't change that either, it just obfuscates some of it. So I like to try and be a positive user here in that regard, personally.
Edit: Just because most other people are assholes when it comes to this, doesn't mean that I have to.
Hello,
I've been testing Piefed for a bit, it made a lot of progress since last time I used it. Actual blocking is possible there.
Nice, and I've been informed that there's a working app for it currently too. I'm all for full blocking, personally. If I feel like I need to block someone, I shouldn't need to justify it or petition admins to ban them, I should be able to just do it and be rid of them in all aspects. And vice versa too, if someone blocks me for whatever reason, I don't want to be left commenting on their content and trying to interact like an idiot, I want to no longer see them. Why should my upvotes and contributions in the comments go to someone that has blocked me?
I've got a busy next couple of days but as soon as I've got time to play around and get used to new things, I'm definitely gonna try Piefed again and the app, Thunder I think.
I think it's Thunder indeed, but it's only available on a specific instance for now, and not Piefed.social.
If you're going to use an app most of the time I would still wait for a bit. Or try the website and see if it can work for you.
Yeah I tried the website in Firefox Android a while ago and there was something messed up in the theming of it for me. But at this rate, I might end up exclusively on desktop anyway. Dropped my phone the other day and now the bottom half of the screen is messed up, with big inky spots that are getting bigger. It's getting harder and harder to type and see what I'm typing and I have to hit reply to read a lot of comments so that they go to the top of the screen lol. Gonna have to save up just for the absolute cheapest tier of phone that I hate sigh.
Damn, sorry to hear... Yes, mobile theming got fixed since then.
Hey Blaze, just wanted to say, I've tried out Piefed a little more. Can confirm mobile theming is definitely fixed. Think I might hold out a little longer for an app or more of certain options. A couple of things I'll miss right now from apps is pinning favourite communities or being able to tweak my UI just right.
So I'll probably stick with base Lemmy for a while longer. Thinking of moving to crazypeople.online though. Less de-federation but downvotes still disabled, which might just suit me better right now. If I do that, I'll probably use the screen name that I'm using on this account right now as a username there. Although I'll take your advice and link my accounts in my bio.
Thank you for your feedback. We were discussing today how apps are an important factor in preventing people from migrating to Piefed full time.
Enjoy crazypeople.online, it seems to be a cool instance!
Yeah unfortunately true. I used to be fine just rolling with Firefox but ever since making the switch to using apps instead, it's undeniable that there's a lot of advantages. At least for now while I wait for more Piefed app support, Summit is pretty great and fills in a couple of gaps missing from the native Lemmy experience.
I'll definitely carry on keeping an eye on things on the Piefed front though.
Sounds good!
Oh nice, I never heard about that. I check into the Piefed community occasionally to check progress with apps and haven't read through every feature and change but that's good to hear. I'll try it soon. Last I tried, it was adaptive too, so it scales perfectly to your screen and is as good as an app. The only issue I had was the weird theme issue at that time.