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I just waded into Doctor Who reddit for some tasty speculation after watching "Wish world", and I really hope the people buying into [edit: recasting rumours] will be proven wrong by Saturday. Posting

I just waded into Doctor Who reddit for some tasty speculation after watching "Wish world", and I really hope the people buying into [edit: recasting rumours] will be proven wrong by Saturday. Posting this as testimony that this was an actual thing people believed.

I also hope Lemmy spoiler tags work as intended in the wider Fediverse... [Edit: turns out this was a rubbish time to learn that they do, in fact, not]

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  • I've found the best way to handle federating spoilers is to keep the title spoiler-free, and put them in the body of a text post - that at least requires a clickthrough from Mastodon.

    I've never experimented with the NSFW tag due to complaints from lemmy users who want to filter out porn and gore, but don't care if they see spoilers.

    I don't think a perfect solution exists.

    • It complicates things that I'm on a Mbin instance, which ostensibly combines forums and microblogging. But the preferred way of handling spoilers vs content warnings differ so much that federating "hidden" content isn't possible.

      • Yeah, the issue as I understand it is that there's no content warning system built into ActivityPub, so each platform has made their own implementation.

        • True, and a little deeper than that as well. The microblogging side of the Fediverse was developed not only to replicate Twitter, but to safeguard the new platform(s) against harassment techniques like brigading and dogpiling. That's why you see a lot of resistance there against user and keyword search, or quote toots; they are tools of the trade for trolls to seek out and expose victims.

          That's also why blocking, domain muting and defederation are more common on Mastodon and the like: as a way to curate your feed and especially fence off bad actors.

          The developers of Lemmy and similar platforms have apparently been content with recreating Reddit on a federated architecture, but haven't taken the same precautions. I was appalled recently to find that "blocking" on the threadiverse isn't reciprocal. When I "block" someone on here it only removes them from my feed, while they can continue to sift through my post history and downvote everything I've written.

          After several years on Mastodon, I find that entirely unsatisfactory and unsafe. I expect better self moderation tools on the platforms I use. So I guess I'll be sunsetting this account in the coming weeks.

          • That's very unfortunate to hear - I agree that there it probably a different core philosophy between Lemmy and Mastodon (I can't speak to other platforms), where Lemmy is considered more of a "public bulletin board" where all content can be read by anyone, and most measures against harassement or other bad behaviour is left to the mod/admin teams (insert long rant about small instances being a good thing here).

            This is the first I've heard of blocked users being able to vote on stuff, though.

            • blocked users being able to vote on stuff

              There was a post up recently to that effect: https://lemm.ee/post/64502083

              I first thought this was an Mbin-specific issue, and the developers were kind enough to open an issue based on my report: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/issues/1596

              I agree completely with your point about smaller instances, but even then mods and admins are limited to the features of the software, and the considerations that developers have or have not made making it.

              Mastodon are no saints either, but at leadt they're erring from a foundation that I agree a lot more with.

              • Fair enough, I don't want to try too hard to change anyone's mind on issues like this, because I completely respect the perspective.

                What I can say is that the admin team of this instance has zero tolerance (if I could make it less than zero, I would) for any kind of harassing behaviour.

                I've also been reasonably pleased with the way Lemmy's tools have expanded and evolved over the past couple of years, so I would never write anything off for the future.

                And in more extreme cases of cross-instance abuse...there's more behind-the-scenes communication between instance admins than you may think!

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