Best lesser-known distribution/DE for low-end machines?
I know Debian and others can breathe life into older machines. But i wonder if there are any distros with serious optimizations that I haven't heard of.
I've already tried MX Linux on an old Thinkpad SL400, and didn't see any difference from plain Debian.
Update: thanks for the great suggestions. Forgot to say many distros feel zippy and fast until you open a web browser. Appreciate your thoughts on which web browser to use too. So far I've had a positive experience with Thorium and Chromium.
The problem with older machines is the web browsing, not the system itself. You could use a browser with Java script disabled but a lot of websites will refuse to work.
You have to sacrifice with browser functionality to improve performance.
Yep. All this optimization you see here about "minimal installs" and which DE to choose is completely moot, if opening Firefox takes up more RAM than the entire operating system.
Even 4gb are really low these days, if you actually want to do something in the browser.
I've had good experiences with Midori and Dillo as alternative browsers on low-memory machines. Obviously features will take a hit but they're surprisingly functional. Don't expect to be able to open many tabs but you can do the usual things including YouTube etc.
I’ve already tried MX Linux on an old Thinkpad SL400, and didn’t see any difference from plain Debian.
Because it's the stock Debian + custom themes/skins + some crappy useless minitools. The 99% of packages come from the official Debian repository, the rest are only the rice.
Alpine is very lightweight. I think it was built so that it would run well inside docker containers, which means it should be fairly easy for low-end computers to run it.
Afaik, it doesn't come with a DE out of the box, so it won't be very user-friendly
AntiX/MX Linux, I've had great success getting them to boot on systems that were refusing to boot anything else, AntiX is my go-to distro for bringing new life to old hardware, it works with literally anything you throw at it.
c2d era laptop. first step if you haven't yet, swap the hdd for a low-cost sata ssd if you can. if you have some homeless sodimms, up the ram, too, if it won't cost anything to do it.
if you're going with mx, you want the fluxbox spin; or opt for antix with icewm instead.
otherwise start with a debian base install (no de or extra sw at install), then add only what you need. peppermint is another option--a basic debian with xfce out-of-the-box and little else. it's what i've been using lately on similar hardware.
for something 'different', you could look at slax.
I guess it depends on what comes with the distro. If you start off with a basic Linux install and add a DE that is low on system resources, like LXQt, you can breathe life into a machine.
Bodhi, antiX and Linux Lite come to mind.
You can also start with a minimal base, Arch, Debian, Alpine, anything, and then add packages.
In earlier Q4OS versions Trinity was the only desktop environment. I still run it even though there's plenty of power on hand to run the others. It just works.
If you want serious optimizations - then Gentoo is your choice.
But seriously, there won't be any serious difference between distributions. What really matters here are DEs and browsers.
I would recommend some kind of lightweight window manager like i3 or dwm. If you do not want to configure everything yourself, then your choice is lxde/lxqt.
Also, you can use distros without systemd (void, artix, devuan, gentoo etc), but that does not matter that much.
I was really excited about peppermint so I switched my old laptop from Kubuntu. but peppermint feels more sluggish than KDE and now I'm not sure what I did wrong :(
I use SpiralLinux on my old Inspiron but it's basically just Debian with some user-friendly tweaks. I guess you could try Tiny Core or Porteus or something really small like that.
I used to use WindowMaker on seriously underpowered laptops 10-15 years ago. Seems like it’s still just as efficient. For something more standard interface-wise you could try IceWM.
Another thing to do is build your own kernel without any features you don’t use. Not sure how much of a difference that makes exactly.
If you have any expectation of privacy, you shouldn't use chromium based browsers. Their purpose is not privacy, and google actively makes sure it will never be.