UN Human Rights Office - OPT: Unlawful killings in Gaza City
UN Human Rights Office - OPT: Unlawful killings in Gaza City
On Wednesday, the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights published a report alleging that Israeli forces carried out a mass execution of civilians in Northern Gaza, separating 11 men from their families and summarily shooting them.
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That's eleven men.
This is bad and I don't want to justify or defend it. But this does not indicate mass executions of civilians as policy. It could well be a platoon leader who overstepped authority.
As the report states, the UN is calling for a formal investigation. As well they should.
What is the definition of a mass execution or massacre to you?
When I responded, the submission went to the World Socialist Web Site. I linked above to the actual report. If you read the actual report, you see that eleven civilians were murdered. And that's terrible. The report rightly calls for an investigation.
You ask, what is a mass execution or massacre? Well, what happened here is unlawful killings. It's a massacre. But my point was that an investigation was needed to determine if these killings were the result of Israeli policy or an event on the ground out of the hands of actual policymakers. Which would look something a whole lot more like the Katyn Massacre, where Soviet troops murdered 22,000 people in Poland during WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
This doesn't diminish those eleven lives. But that's the difference between state policy and a military commander gone rogue.
When I responded, the submission went to the World Socialist Web Site. I linked above to the actual report. If you read the actual report, you see that eleven civilians were murdered. And that's terrible. The report rightly calls for an investigation.
Yeah, no need to explain that, it was well understood the first time.
This doesn't diminish those eleven lives. But that's the difference between state policy and a military commander gone rogue.
I don't know if we can assume that anymore. The whole IDF is the former. Many Palestinians aside from those died in custody in circumstances the IDF wants to investigate, and then these 11, and in the upcoming months we will hear about a lot more.
You ask, what is a mass execution or massacre?
You didn't answer the question. Your point was clear from the first comment I responded to. There was no need for over explaining it all.
I suggest you Google mass killing and massacre and summary executions. "Mass" doesn't imply thousands of people necessarily.
I'm not debating your point on mass executions. Even or 22,000. They're bad.
But if you claim these were murdered as policy set by top leadership, you need evidence. Not speculation.
The evidence is the collection of IDF crimes committed every day. Sorry the list is too long to put in one post. I suggest you use Google.
No. That is not relevant to this crime. At best, it is circumstantial.
What is needed are documents from official sources. Witness testimony from within the high command attesting to orchestration of this crime. Actual specifics.
You are on a witch hunt.
I don't think any of what you are saying here is a logical conclusion to "11 men"
Yes, just a completely consistent series of platoon leaders who systemically "overstep authority". These are fully and totally autonomous actions... that are culturally mandated. Why everyone is so upsets?
I assume some people think MASS KILLING and EXECUTION are just shocking words being used, when instead they just describe the ugly reality.