But I like feeling like a real manly man when I eat my real manly meat in a real manly way with my real manly bros, surely that's worth a few hundreds thousands human lives a year ?
(And btw, plant-based diets could also save 100 million animal lives a year)
I think it you want to see the environmental benefits, is less of saving animal lives and more ensuring that 100 million animals a year never exist?
Edit: Not sure what is controversial about this. We stop eating meat to stop farming of livestock. No livestock lives are saved, just new animals aren't born into the mincer.