Victim reports his father missing. Police instead interrogated him for 17 hours, said they killed his dog, and withheld his meds from the victim. Victim tried to commit suicide in the room.
Victim reports his father missing. Police instead interrogated him for 17 hours, said they killed his dog, and withheld his meds from the victim. Victim tried to commit suicide in the room.
At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.
Finally, after curling up with the dog on the floor, Perez broke down and confessed. He said he had stabbed his father multiple times with a pair of scissors during an altercation in which his father hit Perez over the head with a beer bottle.
Perez’s father wasn’t dead — or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didn’t immediately tell Perez.
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Sadism. The pigs enjoyed watching him suffer. It's the simplest and most obvious explanation, and all that bullshit about smelling blood is a lie designed to cover their tracks.
In a slightly more just society, that $900,000 would have come out of the bastards' malpractice insurance, their careers would be destroyed, and they would face investigation by an independent civilian oversight committee & face harassment / abuse charges.
A society that was slightly better still would see them afraid to show their fucking faces in that town ever again.
Perez was not released until after the end of the three-day psychological observation period. He then retrieved his dog from Riverside County Animal Services, tracking her down through an implanted chip, Steering said.
They didn't even give his fucking dog back!!!
As a responsible pet owner, that makes me unbelievably angry. Bad decisions would follow. I would likely go to jail for my actions and argue that I can't be held fully responsible on account of my reasonable and extreme rage.
To be honest, were I in that guy's position and they threatened to euthanize my dog and brought him to me to say goodbye, that likely would have been the ultimate end of my stint in free society right there. Zero chance I don't try to kill them with my bare hands when my sanity is already hanging by a thread. In my opinion this fully qualifies as psychological torture, and no person has any duty to suffer it quietly or otherwise.
malpractice insurance
i like the romanticism of insurance companies somehow wanting to pay out people who are being fucked over by the police.
Bro they're literally only here to make money, what makes you think an insurance company backing the fucking police of all things, is going to pay out victims lmao.
Also this is kind of a stupid take, because these people are literally paid by tax money, if they had to pay for insurance, that would just be covered with tax money, that has been taxed, so we get like a little bit of return on it. This doesn't even solve the tax payer problem fully lmao, plus now we have an entire business who's entire existence is making money, and actively employs a shit ton of private sector people, which also means now we're paying private sector employees doing a job that arguably shouldn't exist, with fucking tax money.
The insurance company doesn't get to make that call, the courts do. The insurance company gets to dictate the premiums each cop has to pay.
i guess so, but why even have an insurance company at all at that point, just institute proper punishments for offending officers, and pay out a case using tax payer money directly.
Unless we're suggesting a realm where this insurance company is state run i don't see this saving anybody money anywhere.
The point is that the cost of lawsuits would come out of the police officer's pockets due to higher premiums, instead of out of tax payer's pockets which means the officers don't care.
institute proper punishments for offending officers
That is a fantastic idea I whole heartedly agree with. Who is in charge of assigning the punishments? Police unions refuse to have civilian oversight.
The point is that the cost of lawsuits would come out of the police officer’s pockets due to higher premiums
man, it's a good thing police forces are private institutions funded by their own dollar.
Surely nothing bad could ever come of this arrangement.
That is a fantastic idea I whole heartedly agree with. Who is in charge of assigning the punishments? Police unions refuse to have civilian oversight.
legally, it should be the court, and a jury. Though we should also institute some protections against criminal enterprising, because it could be very easy to stack a court against them.
man, it’s a good thing police forces are private institutions funded by their own dollar.
That's the entire point. Police stations are tax funded. They torture someone into a false confession and the station gets fined $900 000, which comes from taxes, so they don't fucking care.
What I said was: the cost of lawsuits would come out of the police officer’s pockets, not the police precinct's. The Officers would be paying the insurance costs out of their paychecks. Each lawsuit means the officer ends up with less money. If a specific precinct keeps having lawsuits against it that will result in higher rates for working in a "high risk precinct". Lawsuits should result in financial consequences for the people involved, not for tax payers.
legally, it should be the court, and a jury.
There should absolutely be legal consequences for the officers involved here. How much do you want to bet there won't be?
That’s the entire point. Police stations are tax funded. They torture someone into a false confession and the station gets fined $900 000, which comes from taxes, so they don’t fucking care.
the problem here is that they aren't reprimanded or punished, they need to be, not that the tax payers pay someone who was abused by an institution funded by tax dollary doos.
the cost of lawsuits would come out of the police officer’s pockets, not the police precinct’s. The Officers would be paying the insurance costs out of their paychecks. Each lawsuit means the officer ends up with less money. If a specific precinct keeps having lawsuits against it that will result in higher rates for working in a “high risk precinct”. Lawsuits should result in financial consequences for the people involved, not for tax payers.
a decent trick here would be forcing the police dept to represent itself, or the officers more specifically. That would come out of the budget fund, and then be an immediate problem.
There should absolutely be legal consequences for the officers involved here. How much do you want to bet there won’t be?
yeah, we literally run this country though, so i don't know why you're sitting here trying to argue something that isn't actually legal punishment, and then sitting here and complaining about the fact that there won't be, even though you're literally steel manning your own argument there.