Our retention pond in our neighborhood has a lot of algae and problematic plant growth due to the surrounding farms and lawn runoff, so we're experimenting with a floating island to pull nutrients out before they can cause problems. This will also provide some interesting flowering plants, and more fish habitats.
Will be an interesting experiment to see what survives and what does poorly.
Zinnias, sunflowers, marigolds, and a few others are in net pots, inserted into cutouts in EVA foam mats.
You are coming across as argumentative and rather rude about your insistence, when OP has already said whatever you want them to look into is beyond the current scope of the project, which roughly translates to “thanks, but I’m not interested in doing that right now”.
And in response to that, to telling you it’s not in the current scope of a trial project, you are implying they are not doing research or learning or whatever it is (you literally said in your second comment “if you want to do a little research” which does indeed imply you feel they didn’t do enough). When really, you just want them to do something with their time that they don’t want to do, and frankly don’t need to do at this first stage of trial. And you seem to be getting butthurt that they aren’t interested in doing what you want them to. The condescending tone in the comment I’m replying to is a dead giveaway.
Besides which, not everyone wants to deal with growing weed or hemp which looks identical. In fact, most people don’t want to deal with it (obtaining licenses, dealing with theft, etc.). So your focus on that specific plant through your comments seems really genuinely weird, like you can’t fathom people not being stoners or something. That’s quite off-putting.
If you were genuinely trying to start a conversation, you may want to look at how you approach that. When someone says they aren’t interested, like OP did, you can say “ok, well if anyone else is, or if it interests you in the future, here’s the info” and someone will probably reply to it if they want to talk about. You can’t just unilaterally decide what people are going to talk about and force them to participate if they don’t want to discuss it, which honestly seems like what you were trying to do.
Holy fucking shit, insistence of what? That there can be other plants?
Should I have said “extra”, “bonus”, or “more” sure, but all of those can be taken out of context too. I don’t want them to do anything, I was merely providing evidence that there’s other plants to back up a claim instead of being called out for not providing anything for it.
I never said they had to or told them to, please point that out?
They said they were not interested about 4 comments in after not realizing that cannabis isn’t only for heavy metals like they assumed in their first response. I rather politely at that point said that it’s not only for that.
Again, holy fucking shit you’re reading way to into a rather innocuous comment that someone took offense too. I literally said I was going to read their own research later too, but of course that doesn’t taken into context.
Edit yeah OP is just pissy, yeah I am still a little of an asshole, but clearly they never wanted a discussion about this in the first place. From a response to someone else they also misunderstood the entire premise of their comment….
I'm following peer reviewed papers on how to remediate ponds, and you're telling me that they are incorrect or insufficient.
Yeah there is other fucking plants lmfao, and buddy doesn’t want to talk about it.
Look, you may not have intended it to come across that way, and I get that, but it does. I’m not trying to be mean to you or anything; we all have blind spots in communication because we can only see what we intend to say, and not how it comes across to others. I’m not involved in the conversation and that’s how it came across to me, and probably all the people downvoting you.
They are doing a thing following specific research that they are aware of and probably spent a lot of time on, and know they should be able to reproduce. As such their very first reply to you was them telling you they aren’t interested in expanding their project at this point, and sticking with what they were already planning/doing. I get that that message didn’t come across to you, but it’s absolutely there. You responded to that by saying “I guess nobody wants to discuss that” which is a guilt trip.
And I never said you were forcing anything, I said it honestly seems like that’s what you were trying to do. Which, from the outside, it really absolutely does.
Just because people post things and then don’t want to talk about something tangential to, or an expansion of, the thing they are posting about doesn’t mean they don’t want to discuss whatever it is, it means they don’t want to discuss it the same way you do, or go beyond where they already are. That’s not less valid, even if it upsets you personally to not get to have the conversation you want to.
Huh…. a good discussion came out of with someone else so clearly not everyone took it that way, why are you assuming the worst? You’re the only other one than OP piping up.
Oh, and yeah someone on the internet got mad at me and made a comment about it, I’m totally gonna change my ways, thank you sir…. /s
Yeah people converse differently, if you don’t like way someone else does it, you don’t need to interject yourself. I could throw a bunch of insults and assumptions at you too.
Spent a lot of time on? Have you read their comments? They show zero knowledge on the subject itself, and zero on basic plant botany… Jesus fucking christ.
This place is a place for discussion, if you’re posting here, you should expect it, it’s kinda in the rules lmfao.
Don't forget all the people that were already too tired from this conversation before even participating in it to pipe up and decided to just click on the down arrow instead. Here I am piping up, though. You should change your ways if you genuinely want to "have a discussion". You're very right that you don't have to do that for anybody here, though! We don't give a fuck if you ever do find that discussion you're after. But if that is something you might like in the future you might want to examine the way you go about that. But I get it, it's hard not to stay defensive once you've dug yourself in already.
But I get it, it's hard not to stay defensive once you've dug yourself in already.
Yeah…. You kinda have to explain and defend yourself when someone misses the entire point of a discussion that’s already happening…..
They don’t understand how plants remediate or rejuvenate growing mediums, so having to explain that myself before even moving into a discussion would be the only way to address that…. And it could only be seeing as defending myself since OP never wanted a discussion. Thats why I left it and moved on.
The topic moved to stuff that is basic plant biology, I’m not gonna try and have a technical discussion with someone with zero understanding of even the basic processes involved. That’s the issue here, I thought they had at least a surface knowledge to want to do something like this in the first place.
They now want peer reviewed papers for how a plant grows… yeah that’s not someone who actually understand anything about they what they are doing…. You understand how asinine of a request that is and how it show how they lack even basic knowledge of the subject…?
In case it helps for the future, I also think you came off defensive from the first reply. If everyone but you seems like an asshole, you may want to look at how you're acting.
You usually seem pretty positive on here - if you're having a crappy day, I hope things feel better after a night's sleep.
Of course I was defensive, they have no understanding of how remediation or rejuvenation works, and the only way to address that is to correct them, and someone who never wanted a discussion would only take it the wrong way.
If they had basic knowledge of the subject, they would see how the topic is relevant, since they can’t see the relevance, they clearly have only read this article and have no understanding of basic plant biology.
Of course every discussion with any technical merit isn’t gonna go anywhere, I just didn’t notice it until it was too late. It happens and I was rather polite until OP took offense to me trying to figure out where they lacked understanding. Which was apparently basic plant biology instead of having any working knowledge.
It’s like someone saying they are skilled in X and then you ask them the most basic question and they have zero idea. So obviously they aren’t actually skilled. This is the case here it seems.
You conveniently left out the part where I said to show me the research, and I'd read it.
So far I've gotten a single link to a single paper that was irrelevant to this project, and a whole lot of "you're doing it wrong, trust me bro" from two people.
You conveniently left out the part where I said to show me the research, and I'd read it.
The part that is basic plant botany and anyone with a basic understanding of how a plant grows would know…? Plants absorb stuff from the soil and hold it, some are better than others. The same has to be true for other mediums like water and coco….
You’re arguing that neither of those are true claims….