Women working in Antarctica say they were left to fend for themselves against sexual harassers
Women working in Antarctica say they were left to fend for themselves against sexual harassers
Many women who work at McMurdo Station, the main United States research base in Antarctica, say the isolated environment and macho culture have allowed sexual harassment and assault to flourish.
The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.
But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.
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Yeah, as a woman, I'd be real hesitant about taking a job out there, or any place thats more wild-west in nature (very few people and very lax regulation of any laws) and I'd sure as hell take gun tactical training before going, and always have a firearm on me.
You have to fly through New Zealand so I'm guessing no guns are allowed.
Don't even have a gun and you shot down all of us 🤣
I'm sure guns are flying through no problem, just not in your handbag. Most likely in a checked bag and probably requiring a gun license.
NOPE. You cannot bring guns to Antarctica.
Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn't go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
Not to antarctica.
But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn’t go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
knowing you would require a firearm to feel safe probably indicates you wouldn't be invited in the first place, so this is less of an issue.
Ohhh, the "it doesn't happen, and if it does, it doesn't matter anyway," type argument. Love those.
Also, the user above was saying NZ would be the stopping point. Do you just have a hard time deciphering these things?
the entire premise of the discussion was for the purpose of mythical people thinking they needed firearms to serve imaginary time on antarctica. someone said they'd take their gun, I pointed out no guns in Antarctica, someone said they could bring it through newzedland, and that's true, but still not to antarctica, the subject of the discussion.
funny enough, you probably still can't bring firearms to new zealand it turns out - https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/prohibited-and-restricted-items/firearms-and-weapons/#:~:text=You need a New Zealand,by the New Zealand Police.
What part of the premise are you having trouble with sparky?
To new Zealand is different than through New Zealand.
The specific claim was that guns would be stopped at new Zealand. They wouldn't. They'd be stopped in Antarctica
But that narrative doesn't support the anti gun ideology. they want everyone disarmed so the strong can once again shuffle the weak in any direction they choose. it makes them so mad that they have to think twice about sexual assault or else they get blown away. its like a condom, those convincing you that you don't need one, means you really really need one.
edit: so mad 😎
triple digit mad lets fucking Goooooo! 🤣
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that's kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren't afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
what's the slow down? Let's hit 4 digi mad!
Oh yes, how they shuffle the weak in the UK and Australia. Just weak people being shuffled around by the strong all over the place.
Are you really trying to use the UK and Australia as bastions of society? lol throwing stones from a glass house.
I'm really trying to use the UK and Australia as places where people have as much freedom as they do in the US but no guns. Or do you think they're totalitarian police states or something?
i was simply enforcing the fact that women need guns to prevent men from raping them. UK and Australia are dumpsites just like America. do not pretend that objects in a room make the world shitty. its what people do with those objects. 'Mens Rea'
Maybe instead of arming women to stop men from raping them, we start teaching our men that masculinity does not equal sex and sex does not equal power?
We do teach that. Men (and women) who rape know raping is wrong and still do it anyway.
You didn't read what I wrote. You need to do more than teach that rape is wrong. You need to divorce sex from both masculinity and power.
That will do nothing. People who get off on it aren't going to suddenly not get off on it because you repeat a bunch of words to them. There's never been a moment in history where rape hasn't been desired for by a percentage of the population, and unless you've implemented some sort of Equalibrium-type society where everyone is force-fed regular injections that keep them compliant, it's not happening.
Don't get me wrong, teaching works for most people, but not all. It's not going to be eliminated by talking theory at them that forcing someone to submit to them sexual no longer means power.
sure. but until that day comes....we just hope? wing and a prayer that we dont become victims?
Well, again, women are not being raped right and left in the UK and Australia. So maybe that's not the only solution.
oh you sweet summer child. i really do hope you never have to experience a traumatic event first hand. however, some of us have. and what really makes it worse is that those who haven't been made a victim just spout how its not that bad for them because their own lives haven't suffered through it, and it wont make sense to those people until it happens to them and that...that's the really sad part. victim blaming. UK and Australia have just as bad rape problems as anywhere else in this world. im just struggling to find out why you want everyone to trust their safety to ths 'social contract' which is a layer of air and that's it.
Rape doesn't occur by strangers. Statistically speaking, it's a family member raping a family member. Or it's a close acquaintance. Staying strapped at all times to prevent SA isn't reasonable.
So how did you want to solve the rape thing? get rid of the guns first, then?
bueller?
Who's mad again? Lol
the down voters obvi~
Not the ranter in favor of dead children tho
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that escalated quickly. 0-100 who said anything about dead children?
Ah yes, the idea that mass shootings are aided by guns is just unthinkable
god forbid anyone uses any other means to kill someone though. focus on the guns. focus on the guns.
All those school knifings where 15 children leave in body bags -- they're just swept under the rug by the mAiNsTrEaM mEDiA
And don't you cite the like one or two of those that have ever happened back in 1931. We both know that psychopaths love the idea of killing a dozen people in a few seconds and the only way to do that is with guns or explosives.
we banned explosives tho. so we don't have to worry about that :D
Hmm, interesting how you accidentally pointed out that school shootings usually don't involve explosives. It's almost like banning has a non zero impact or something
2A propaganda. "Anti Gun Ideology"? That's not something being discussed anywhere in the US. There is no anti-gun ideology. Some people just want it to be harder for criminals and mental health patients to acquire full auto rifles. Generally the 2nd amendment chest beaters only come out after mass shootings, of which there were like 3 this past weekend. So while you didn't mention dead kids, that is the general outcome of Republican obstructionism on all issues related to 2A.
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You're a fool if your don't think anyone in America wants all guns banned.
It's like 1% of the population, so it's not truly worth mentioning
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up.
guns are much more likely to be used to commit sexual violence than stop sexual violence. this entire premise is fucked up.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/arms-control/gun-violence/
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2020/02/05/JAAPL.003929-20
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/domestic-violence-firearms/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/guns-and-violence-against-women/
The impact of gun violence against women goes beyond fatal encounters. A 2016 study found that nearly 1 million women alive at that time had been shot by an intimate partner, and 4.5 million women had been threatened with a firearm.4 Firearms have long been used as a tool of power and control to instill fear and inflict abuse on women—with women of color, people in the LGBTQ community, and women with disabilities being disproportionately affected.5
I get that you think you're some righteous crusader for women's safety but the more guns solution hasn't worked - there are more guns than people in the US; how many more guns do we need until you admit your hypothesis is wrong? What's the number, 500 million?
20 per person? Keep in mind, the more guns there are in the population, the more domestic abusers will use them to intimidate and violate their victims. So when do we get to safety through guns?
Make it make sense.
I'm not surprised by this but it makes me wonder how many women in these instances had a gun on them. Are men more likely to have a gun than the woman? You seem more familiar with the topic than I. Is that stated in any of the articles?
make humans nature to kill makes sense? ill meet you half way if you do.
so if it's human nature to murder, we should make sure more people have access to easily available tools with which to murder people?
come on, you're half way there....
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ignorant fuckwits like you assume people are scared when they disagree with arms being spread amongst the populace.
Die mad? What's got your panties in such a bunch lil dude?
We both live in a world with Australia too. Read some fucking history you bellend.
And points - big ones - for being so afraid of taking guns back that the solution to the mass murders occurring ALL THE FUCKING TIME NOW is - wait for it - MORE GUNS!
Goddamn that's stupid.
you are really upset that you can do nothing about firearms. i see that now.
I could be upset about your face instead, I mean, it scares children ffs.
I blame your parents tho, not you. You could wear a mask and save us all the horror but no one would expect you to be that enlightened.
Trust me, no one has any expectations for you at all.
But I get I hit a nerve, so now that you're very irate, I'm going to block you. Have a terrible life.
Uhhh, please clarify. How to make nature kill and why you say you are ill?
edit: so mad 😎
They get mad when reality disagrees with them. Big mad. As in to say most of the time
they get mad because it's bullshit. a stupid hypothesis backed by a bunch of fearmongering and frothed spittle.
riddle me this, gunman: how many guns until we're 'safe'?
we've got more guns than people. so what's it gonna take? 4 per person? 10? Do we need six billion guns so every american can count 20 in their home arsenal? Does that get us to safe?
pretty fucking stupid premise.
What should we do about rape?
good question! do you think more firearms would make the rapists less likely to have a gun, or more likely?
I'll wait over here while you figure this out.
quick with the twisting of the knife. "ill wait" idk who hurt you. but you should probably talk to someone you can confide in. Guns are not going anywhere in your lifetime l, keep denying it and raging at it till the bitter end and then when you die and i die. guns will still be here. ill wait while you figure this out?
aw, got your feelings hurt? poor baby.
we're all gonna die you schmuck, you're probably just going to go in a 'cleaning accident'.
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren’t afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
LOL. no, it doesnt.
yeah. it does :/
She specifically said “training”, which on its own immediately goes against whatever insane ideology you’re selling.
protection of ones own safety is insane? who is responsible then for my safety? and how should i go about protecting myself? and since my wife carries. you think i should deny her a firearm? because of school shootings?
I agree. I'm glad to have one.