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Edward Snowden Echoes Richard Stallman's Warnings On Proprietary Software After User Says 'Adobe Can Not Be Trusted'

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Edward Snowden endorsed Richard Stallman's warnings about proprietary software after Adobe Inc.'s new terms and conditions, which allow for user content review, sparked backlash from professional users.

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Edward Snowden Echoes Richard Stallman's Warnings On Proprietary Software After User Says 'Adode Can Not Be Trusted'

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Assange has also worked directly on russian payroll (he had a program on RT) and has basically admitted that he supports russian imperialism (not in such an explicit manner, but we are all adults here). Not to mention he had no issues undermining the safety of whole multitude of people in his leaks as part of his quest for fame.
Snowden knew (or should have known) what he is signing up for. Collaborating with the russians (whose internal control of local internet services and jailing of people for social media posts makes the US look reasonable and human rights focused) is not right.
And even from a pragmatic standpoint; let's say I believed all the stories about Snowden not having any other options (I speculate that he actually supports russian imperialism and their methods); why should anything he says be given any attention?
Tomorrow the russians might tell him that he needs to promote that Stallman is evil pedophile and Adobe are a great company. You're saying he will suddenly reject their orders and refuse to execute them?
What is your logic here?
- Nah, your logic is virtue signalling.
  You don't want compromised inviduals promoting your points; there are many other who have a measure of consistency in their beliefs and don't back down (to a regime that makes US surveillance seem like a walk in the park) at the first sign of trouble.
  If you don't want to make such choices, then don't get involved in activism. It's very simple.
  
  While RMS does come off as provincial and somewhat delusional, he is a very smart and forward-looking fellow. I agree with his take on big corporation, privacy, freedom.
  What I don't agree with is promoting Snowden as a messenger for RMS' viewpoints. You can't have it both ways; he can't be both forced to collaborate with the russians for his "survival" and be open in his statements. There are many other folks worth promoting who share RMS' viewpoints.
  There isn’t such a thing as “good surveillance”, or “better surveillance”, if you do surveillance you can’t pretend a position of moral superiority to others who do the same, even if you still don’t chase people who say certain things online, it’s on the horizon. Thanks to Snowden sacrifice we know some of the USA government surveillance. He didn’t “back down at the first sign of trouble”, what he did made him lose the life he had, I’d like to see you in his position.
  This is where you have a very primitive and parochial take. Getting sent to jail via kangaroo court for a relatively moderate social media post is far more damaging than the impact of western surveillance. If you don't understand this you are lost.
  He did back down at the first sign of trouble. He chose to work with the russian security services when things got rough. He had other choices, go back to the US, refuse to work with the russians and just let them know that he would prefer to keep quiet.
  You seem to have a very "hollywood" interpretation of russian security services. Yes, they are brutal, but their propaganda/communication outreach is not some "star wars antagonist" type bullshit. They see value in Snowden, simply executing him or even sending him to jail would undermine this value for them.
- Edit to add after the fact: https://lemmy.ml/post/16580444/11527133
  Tankies are a no-go for me as I am Ukrainian. Even mainstream leftists, who generally have good ideas, like Yanis Varoufakis, turn into complete degenerates when it comes to NATO or Russian imperialism. And Varoufakis is just the tip of the iceberg.
  Yeah… you may find yourself having a rough time here, buddy.
  You may want to know that degenerate is a word in English often associated with fascists.
  A wild
  appears!
  Assange has also worked directly on russian payroll (he had a program on RT)
  So has Chris Hedges, who’s always produced exemplary work. So what?
  and has basically admitted that he supports russian imperialism
  First of all there’s nothing really there to support, because Russia is hardly imperialist, despite the projection by imperial core states, think tanks, and corporate media to the contrary.
  Around 20 years ago Russia—at the time lead by Putin—wanted to join the imperialism club, but the US rejected them. Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule. Since then Russia, rejected by the Global North, has had no choice but to join with the Global South as allies instead of neocolonizers. Hence BRICS+ and the larger developing multipolar bloc that’s going its own way, ignoring the US’ “rules-based international order” sanctions, developing its own international balance of payments outside of US dollar hegemony, and working to get out from under the boot of the IMF’s & World Bank’s debt traps.
  the Russians (arguably one of the most brutal fucked regimes both currently and historically)
  You have got to be kidding me.
  List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
  A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
  The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
  Shock therapy (economics)
  Are We The Baddies?
  The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
  Infographic: US military presence around the world The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined.
  World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country
  Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich
  .
  As for the US’ actions against post-Soviet Russia in particular:
  The US has wanted to break up or otherwise weaken/isolate Russia ever since almost immediately after the break-up of the USSR. That’s why it’s been expanding NATO ever-closer to Russia despite originally having sworn up & down never to move one inch eastward. The US couldn’t allow a Ukrainian government to stand that was friendly with Russia. That’s why it couped Ukraine’s government in 2014.
  Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
  Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
  CouterPunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
  BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
  Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
  Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made
  The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
  The Guardian, 2017: 'I want to bring up a warrior': Ukraine's far-right children's camp – video
  WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
  Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
  The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
  Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
  Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
  Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
  .
  The US doesn’t want Europe and Russia to develop closer ties, because it doesn’t want the “Eurasian landmass” to ever cohere, because then it would become too self-sufficient and powerful for the US to control. Zbigniew Brzezinski laid this theory out when the Soviet Union fell. That’s why the US tried to convince Europe not to build Nord Stream 2 and then later not to turn it on, why Biden said he would “bring an end to it” if Russia invaded, and why they ultimately did bring an end to it.
  The US also very much wants regime change or balkanization in Russia so it can resume its neocolonial “shock therapy” plundering of it, which started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin. That’s why the US has a special hate-on for Putin.
  
  Keep LARPing buddy!
  
  Debil

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