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What is described has no correlation with the symbols.
They actually are the symbols of the workers and do belong to the descriptions.
It's just that many bad actors have and are trying to steal the symbols, such as the Soviet Union and China. Those have no correlation with leftism but people associate them to the symbols
why is this getting downvoted??
I'm usually brigaded by fascist-minded and reactionary accounts
Not allowed to call out dictatorships
Wow, imagine thinking you're so important, that people take time of their day to organise to organise downvoting some rando opinion, on a network that has no karma.
Delusional.
Easy to explain shitty opinions by crying "brigaded". Equivalent to "fake news".
Lol I don't care about them. They waste their time targeting us.
Same response as a "Swastika is just a sun symbol"
A symbol can change meaning depending on history. Hammer and sickle is the symbol of oppression, suffering, dictatorship, imperialism and inequality, and it's meaning is influenced by the actions of soviet union and china.
I didn't say against that. The fascist powers have made their mark on the symbols that is true. As I said, it is what people associate.
Do swastikas, hammers, stars etc. have positive meanings originally? Yes
Have fascist dictatorships ussd those symbols with horrible atrocities? Yes
Do people generally associate the latter? Yes
If people "generally associate the latter", then the meaning of the symbol is changed.
And the symbols no longer match the text they're next to, as per my original comment.
Can't put "good luck" and drop a fucking swastika near it.
You can, but that would get you arrested in many places in Europe, if you brandish it in public.
Symbols carry history with them.
Likewise, you could get a fine for brandishing hammer and sickle in many ex-soviet countries.
Yes you are reiterating my point
Symbols are just part of language, which evolves. Drop "fag" in a conversation in the uk and nobody bats an eye. Do it in the US, however.....
Language, as many symbols, are context-dependent.
If you called a gay person "a fag" in UK, absolutely no one would think you are calling them a cigarette.