So Lemmy.ca Has Also Defederated Hexbear
Deferated from hexbear.net - Lemmy.ca
Looks like we upset a few too many
residents over at lemmy.ca. I didn't see a post about this on here, so I thought I'd go ahead and make one.2 of 4 reasons why are basically just PPB lol, and a third is for calling for executions of landlords
that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime
Translation; "I don't know how to counter these arguments, so I'll just assume its propaganda and move on"
that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime
Holeeeeeeeee shit.
Your honor, the evidence that I’m guilty sounds well founded only if you disregard the fact that I’m not guilty.
You might as well stick your fingers in your ears and start drooling
the ball flew so far over their head that it left near earth orbit.
they did the thing
while the other half parrots more Chinese propaganda (that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime).
Under liberalism, there are no good or bad actions, only good and bad teams
half of them replies with huge and ugly emojis
Our emojis may be huge due to the lemmy bug (I've been trying to refrain posting some outside of the instance due to that), but ugly ?!
How dare them, we have the best emojis
They mean ppb
Me: Mom I want expertise on China.
Mom: We've already got a China expert at home.
The China expert at home:
50% of posts are well-written arguments? Not a bad ratio, frankly. Good posts, guys.
Like all leftists we're pathetically vulnerable to engaging in lively debate about economics.
This really needs to be a site tagline.
TLDR: if you want to know if an instance will defed hexbear, check its instance block list for lemmygrad.
been making stray comments here and there about this, I'm telling y'all if an instance defeds lemmygrad it is 1000% going to defed hexbear, we're calmer and more solitary than y'all, so all the accusations of trolling or brigading or just generally being "ebil tankies" against the grad can and will be used against hexbear too. I fully expect .world to defed lemmygrad in the next couple months too once they're finally got their shit under control. Is what it is, hopefully normal users still manage to find us and switch to instances that aren't ran by anticommunists.
This. I was surprised to find that they were even federated with hexbear. Lemmy.ca was on my shortlist of instances to join when I was moving to Lemmy. Blocking lemmygrad was reason enough to find a different instance.
I feel like we sometimes overstate the we are calmer/polite/respectful part. There was a hexbear user telling another hexbear user that our emojis in federated communities were a little disruptive (because they are really big) and they apologized, but another user replied to them with a ppb lol
I do see that lemmygrad is more aligned to some ML types, while hexbear is a bit wider, which does make for a difference. But it doesn't seem the strain of communism is the main problem for the de-federating people.
However we have a more diverse set of opinions in our user base, since we don't ban people that quick (i.e. in terms of war in Russia we have some revolutionary defeatists, some anti imperialists who favour a weakening of the imperialist NATO (which really irks other instance admins, etc.).
To moderate a sub sub sub comment of a main thread is a bit funny though.
When I saw that thread last night, I was expecting the links to the "offenses" to be wild. But then it was just bathroom humor, and a singular call to execute landlords, which I found hilarious.
I just do not understand the lack of humor of a lot of people, on these instances. You'd swear their lives are devoid of happiness.
A lot of those are pretexts for defederating I think
What rubs them the wrong way is our position on various issues (despite them being far more deeply argued and sourced than the paltry answers we usually get)
Also, admittedly and to a lesser degree, likely the fact we're numerous and terminally online so anytime something dunkable is posted even the small subset of online hexbear users that see it appear on their feed and interact must look like an army to them
Guaranteed most of them have some interesting opinions on the indigenous people of Canada and how they ended up in their current situation.
Most of them are starlight tourguides.
Step 1: Execute landlords
Step 2: Land doesn’t actually get properly distributed and a new landlord rises
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit?
(Step 5: Revolution all over again)
Edit: /s in case it’s not clear. sigh Poe’s Law sucks 🤦♂️
Uhh excuse me I'm sorry what was step 2 again??
Calls China an Oppressive Regime
Based in country that swore fealty to a pedophile enabling racist royal family which leeches off the people of the UK and imprisons people standing against monarchy.
The UK complaining about China is really rich given the way their courts work, their actual literal king and unelected house of parliament, ASBOs, and the UK being far and away the most exhaustively surveilled country in the world.
Don't forget the pogroms and genocide against the Natives
The whole point is that whoever you're replying to has descended in to silly chud shit and there's no longer any point engaging with their "ideas", but apparently our refined linguistic achievements are too complex.
O Canada my home and is native land
they literally have 0 concept of the procession of history, and how the founding of your country less than 200 fucking years ago very much does matter to the present day???
"Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth."
There are so many treaty conflicts going on in Canada right now. O KKKlanada!
Having grown up native in Canada, I assure you that this is the view held by the majority.
It gets even better, look at that dudes profile: https://lemmy.ca/u/MapleEngineer
@MapleEngineer
25 years in the federal government in guns and badges, 22 of those in Corrections, then 10 years in hacker hunting and breach detection, now an information security sales engineer. Homestead farmer, amateur welder, equipment operator, electronic designer, 40 years soldering, husband and father.
142 Posts 529 Comments, Joined: June 14th, 2023
Also got a youtube channel
With a fun quote:
garbage cheap chinese breadboard for $1 I use as solder fixture
my good breadboard is $10 it is much better.
Lmao @ the "not all landlords are bad" comments.
Idiots falling for that lazy argument still.
Somewhat like cops, not every individual is an evil, Machiavellian monster harboring Hitlerian-esque notions of governance and law. However, their existence continues to perpetuate a (horrific) status quo, AND NOBODY IS BORN A COP OR LANDLORD.
Don't like being called a parasitic bastard? Quit then fucker lmao
Well, federation was an interesting experiment. Lemmygrad and hexbear
yeah its kind of shocking how bare the sidebars are on most of the places I've looked
SMDH no respect for the rule of law in the lemmyverse.
Special shoutouts to @AccountVerificationBot@hexbear.net, @duderium@hexbear.net, @Sasuke@hexbear.net, @GaveUp@hexbear.net (and probably also @Frank@hexbear.net), and @GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net for being called out specifically.
For the record I think I only posted pigpoopballs two or three times and stopped when people here on hexbear started complaining about it.
Edit: all violence is bad except for structural violence that funds my treats. We have to help the mom-and-pop landlords fight the evil woke global elitist landlords. All revolutions inevitably destroy themselves which is why I am literally a peasant living on a manor and capitalism never happened (since it is human nature and if anything the nature of the universe (who is God except The Great Investor? What was the Big Bang except a massive and highly profitable investment?)), excuse me now while I have my eighth meltdown about China for the day.
lol that just makes it even funnier
You all went out bullying Canadians without me.
Special shoutouts to . . . @Sasuke@hexbear.net
hiii <3
Lol i didn't even DO ANYTHING. I've been so polite compared to how rude I am usually
true Heroes Of Socialist Labor
It is an indictment of my posting that I wasn't mentioned there. Should have posted harder
Self-crit, you love to see it
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I like how you just threw me in there. : )
You were in there riffing on Kkklanada with GaveUp, so I figured you were being implicitly included there.
Goddamn I need to step up my game
We're totally denying any validity to their position with a vulgar and grotesque reply. It's about as rude as you can get, which is no less than most of them deserve.
That is the one thing the admins of those instances could really enforce, just ban people for usage of it and be done with it, but no instead ban 20k people.
Adding to the discussion = spending hours arguing with me over my basic misunderstanding of the world until I declare victory by citing The Economist and calling you a tankie
And dragging on an argument one point at a time, completely disconnected from the pace of the thread, because I only have like 3 arguments that are all memorized slogans, and have to space them out for dramatic effect
I never bought into this whole "Canada" thing anyway
No fucking way that's a real country
Good post.
That's how Reddit used to operate on a sub-by-sub basis. People would get banned from subs they'd never even visited, because the admins were angry at them posting in associated subs.
The petty feudal mod atmosphere trickled up to the administration over time, and eventually the admins just adopted a Mods But Sitewide approach to governance.
Admittedly, this was after numerous subs began to actively and deliberately fuck with the money.
But... what do you even want? Redditors gonna Redditor. Even Hexbear went through a period of arbitrarily banning people over petty ego driven shit some years back.
Skill issue
I wish all instances would. They’re the most disingenuous and stupid users I’ve ever seen. They might as well just fling their own poop at people’s houses because that’s the level of value they’re bringing to the internet discourse.
They aren’t here to discuss anything in good faith, they’re here to brigade and harass. That’s all I’ve seen from them.
They are freaks of nature.
least dehumanizing canadians
But the discourse!
I love that they think our attempts to educate and our rage and contempt are both in bad faith. Like no, buddy, I am telling you exactly what I really think of you.
Hell yeah! O KKKlanada!
The Landlord thing is funny given how out of control the housing crisis is in CA. Like I know people who are having to flee their home city to try to find a place they can afford to live out in the sticks.
The current governments response to the housing crisis has been "not our responsibility, it's up to the provinces" and I guess Lib Canadians who think they're super leftist want to support the Grits and JT despite how shitty they've been on the housing file for the last 10 years.
lemmy.ca? more like lemmy.caca
boom, gottem.
Hahaha, the bear spares no one! Not even itself for the sake of @Civility@hexbear.net!
Lmao, you will end up like Lemmygrad. The spectres of Lemmy are us!
😔
This has been a tough week for you
Lol they won't be missed
Unserious country
Seriously genocidal country.
agree, after world war II the UK pulled inwards and the concept of "british canada" i.e. the canadian outpost of the imperial civil service got demolished and the place became america with free healthcare.
Fuck 'em, but I do love throwing this back in the faces of all the twits who say we're an "echo chamber". We literally reach out to all these other perspectives and try to make community with them, and they wuss out. (or rather their losers mods / admins decide for the userbase that they shouldn't see what we're posting)
Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture
no more half measures walter
Of course liberals don't believe in the whole premise of lemmy. It is, after all, a socialist structure.
Isn't Canada that place with the blackface Prime Minister?
Yes they also let the natives into the forest in the winter to be left to freez to death...
No, that's what the lying media will try and tell you.
Actually though, Justin Trudeau is our first black prime minister. He just does white face during public appearances to fool the Americans. Canada is actually a very progressive place and absolutely not racist at all.
Also currently engaged in a illegal inter-national war of aggression/invasion of unceded Indigenous land aka a sovereign nation.
Such cowardice. Shameful, really
shoutout to @rab in there for not being a liberal
Am I supposed to be sad about this?
😤
thank god, i dont have to deal with canadians anymore
Canadian hexbear users:
"I'm in danger"
they already knew that, they live in canada
Canadian Hexbear Threat Profile
1.) Moose
2.) the RCMP
3.) Cirrhosis
4.) MAID
5.) bears
6.) The RCMP again
7.) Maple syrup depletion
8.) Hexbear
I'm still here binch.
Who?
god help them
I saw a thread in another instance the other day
Opened it, read it, and said they were suckers
They were talking about defederation or whatever
Picture me giving a damn, I said never
https://lemmy.ca/comment/2262736
Is worth a read, it is by a user slandering Hexbear, turns out:
Haven’t we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??
@emizeko - not sure if you’re a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists’ work for them–but I’m sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.
and
Oh I’m familiar with it. My entire family operates this way. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. I joined the military due to my parents fears about Russia and China invading or some shit. Now I’m the liberal because I’ve actually educated myself, and here they are defending the very things they were terrified of 25 years ago just to own the libs.
Followed by:
My mother was all into the satanic panic BS and Linin’s words about winning the next war via education and indoctrination of youth in our schools. Dad turned out, interestingly enough, to be closeted gay when they divorced because he was also an abusive sack of shit father.
Good that there was a divorce, but the setting of the phrases so close together is bad for online discourse.
The ironic part is that he is so indoctrinated from his small hometown upbringing that he still votes Republican-only and hides the fact his business partner and co-owner of his father’s ranch he inherited is also his boyfriend, or at this point, common law husband. He still hides it because the small community he lives in would probably not be very welcoming. The funny thing is that, at least before it was revealed he was hiding a boyfriend, he was hugely homophobic.
It took me literal years to deprogram, in no small part from reddit, traveling through the military, and seeing the hypocrisy of modern Christianity. It’s sad that so many will never question the values they grew up with and will turn into the next generation ignoramus.
oooh I got a shoutout from a babykiller, neat
I forgot that sopuli existed and was happier for it
a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted.
Cool I wonder if they paid attention when those OSINT guys proved that Ukraine committed the Bucha massacre
🤫
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Reminder that
is basically just lite, truly a 'left wing' Democrat's paradise.canadians are gone, or as we know them in maoist-english kkklanadians
ask them about what happened to the natives and they'll show you how nice the settler scum truly is
lukewarm take: I don't give a fuck about lemmy and what they think, I'm uninterested in seeing what shitlibs have to say and have no interest in trying to convince them to not be shitlibs.
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
Less
means the world more goodier.☑
We should ban all canadian IPs as retribution
We don't track IPs
lemmy does track IPs for rate limiting. It just doesn't store them in the database
Someone post this link in there, please.
Of course. Just raising awareness about programs ☝️
Aw, I thought I had a couple of ok interactions.
The absolute brain melt @astral_avocado@programming.dev in that post saying "not every landlord is exploiting 50 families, many of them are only exploiting one family!" If I assault just one person and not 50, does that make it okay? How fucking dumb do you have to be? How is it possible to be this stupid? Use your fucking brain for half a second, Jesus Christ
I live in a Canadian city with a horrendous landlord and rent affordability problem. Rest assured that many of us want these parasites dealt with.
Canadian online forums seem to always attract the most conservative Canadians.
ppb is like weedkiller for libs
Lol take off hosers
That instance is barren.
I'm too lazy to make the meme, but imagine if you will:
A circle of stick figures talking. Another stick figure with a Canadian flag as a head comes up and loudly announces "I'm defederating from Hexbear!"
One stick figure gives the Canadian stick figure a giant thumbs up, and resumes talking to the rest of the other stick figures in a circle.